The Jack the Ripper Mystery is Finally Solved — Scientifically

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  • John Wheat
    Assistant Commissioner
    • Jul 2008
    • 3487

    #376
    Originally posted by Richard Patterson View Post

    And where is the evidence for that?
    It's not up to me or others to prove Thompson wasn't Jack the Ripper. Especially when you've made a bold claim that Scientificallly it's been proven that Thompson was Jack the Ripper it's up to you to prove it.

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    • Fiver
      Assistant Commissioner
      • Oct 2019
      • 3416

      #377
      Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post
      If Richards Science in relation to his findings for Thompson being The Ripper cant be reasonably Disproven , the status quo remains.
      So far, Richard hasn't provided any science to back his theory.

      He has insisted that Henry Smith's first suspect was Thompson, but that suspect "proved an alibi without the shadow of doubt". If Thompson was the suspect, then that makes him one of a handful of Ripper suspects with a proven abibi.

      Fortunately for the Thompson theory, Henry Smith's proven innocent suspect was probably Oswald Puckridge.
      "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

      "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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      • Fiver
        Assistant Commissioner
        • Oct 2019
        • 3416

        #378
        Originally posted by Richard Patterson View Post
        Major Henry Smith documented a suspect with five very rare, specific traits: ex-medical student, asylum patient, connection to prostitutes, coin fraud, and Rupert Street/Haymarket. Thompson matches all five. No one else has been shown to. The chance of a random man in 1888 London matching all five is astronomical — one in tens of quadrillions.

        Richard
        Here are Smiths' actual words.

        "He had been a medical student ; he had been in a lunatic asylum ; he spent all his time with women of loose character, whom he bilked by giving them polished farthings instead of sovereigns, two of these farthings having been found in the pocket of the murdered woman. Sir Charles failed to find him. I thought he was likely to be in Rupert Street, Haymarket. I sent up two men, and there he was ; but, polished farthings and all, he proved an alibi without the shadow of doubt."

        * "He had been a medical student"
        Matches Francis Thompson.
        Matches what the police believed about Oswald Puckridge.

        * "he had been in a lunatic asylum"
        Does not match Francis Thompson.
        Matches Oswald Puckridge.

        * "he spent all his time with women of loose character"
        Does not match Francis Thompson.
        Might match Oswald Puckridge.​

        * "whom he bilked by giving them polished farthings instead of sovereigns"
        Does not match Francis Thompson.
        Might match Oswald Puckridge.​​

        * "I thought he was likely to be in Rupert Street, Haymarket"
        Does not match Francis Thompson.
        Matches Oswald Puckridge.​​

        And you keep ignoring the sixth and most important trait of Smith's suspect "he proved an alibi without the shadow of doubt".

        If you believe that Francis Thompson is the Ripper, then you should be doing everything in your power to prove that Smith's innocent suspect was not Francis Thompson. Instead, you are arguing for a match that proves Thompson is innocent.
        "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

        "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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        • Fiver
          Assistant Commissioner
          • Oct 2019
          • 3416

          #379
          Originally posted by Doctored Whatsit View Post

          I happily accept that you are trying very hard, and with some success, to establish that Thompson was Smith's suspect, but I see no genuine evidence that Smith's suspect was JtR. If you could prove that the five traits mentioned by Smith were demonstrated to be those not just of Thompson but of JtR too, then this thread would be worthwhile.
          He keeps ignoring the sixth trait of Smith's suspect - "he proved an alibi without the shadow of doubt". If you can prove that Smith's suspect was Francis Thompson, then you have proven that Thompson was innocent.
          "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

          "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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