The Jack the Ripper Mystery is Finally Solved — Scientifically

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  • FISHY1118
    Assistant Commissioner
    • May 2019
    • 3708

    #361
    Originally posted by Mike J. G. View Post

    Fishy, something you and Richard might wanna remember when it comes to science... It's not about proving a negative. It's not for anyone to try and disprove his theory.

    It's for Richard to prove that his theory is correct, and he's not come close to doing that, and if you genuinely think he has, then you might understand science less than Richard does.

    Truly fascinating.
    Hi Mike i think your reading the debate all wrong , those that are trying to prove his suspect isnt JtR do so without really offering any evidence to suggest ''his evidence'' is wrong or incorrect , thats the whole point of the dicussion im seeing going on here.

    So in theory what Richard is doing is showing Evidence that Thompson is a better suspect than those that have been mentioned , that evidence is being negated by yourself and others is somethimes mostly opinion and speculation .

    If Richards Science in relation to his findings for Thompson being The Ripper cant be reasonably Disproven , the status quo remains.
    'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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    • Pcdunn
      Superintendent
      • Dec 2014
      • 2332

      #362
      Originally posted by Richard Patterson View Post


      Mike, if it was only poetry, I’d agree. But Thompson isn’t just indulging in gothic imagery.
      1. In Finis Coronat Opus and Nightmare of the Witch Babies he didn’t write in symbolic abstraction — he graphically described women being cut open, mutilated, and punished. That’s not “flowery metaphor,” it’s sustained pathological obsession.
      2. In his 1891 essay under the pseudonym “Francis Tancred,” he openly called for prostitutes to be thrown into the Thames as “filth to be cleansed.” That’s not poetry. That’s direct prose, and it shows clear contempt for real women.
      3. This wasn’t in isolation. It aligns with his medical training (six years of dissection at Owens College), his scalpel habit (he admits shaving with it in Jan 1889), his documented Whitechapel destitution, and his obsession with a runaway prostitute.
      So no, the case isn’t “violent because of poetry.” The case is violent because of prose essays, private writings, personal obsessions, and biographical context that all point in the same direction. The poetry is just one part of a broader, consistent pattern of psychosexual hatred.

      If you think that’s laughable, fine — but it’s still documented fact.
      There's a case in the US of a teenage boy arrested, convicted, and sent to prison largely based on his violent drawings and writings of murdering women-- after a murdered woman turned up on his path to school.

      Years later, a second investigation and DNA analysis freed the young man.
      His violence was in his art, not his reality.
      Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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      Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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      • Pcdunn
        Superintendent
        • Dec 2014
        • 2332

        #363
        Originally posted by Fiver View Post

        Sounds to me like the "frail and slight figure" of Thompson should be downgraded to (A) Age/physical health > 1 = issues creating doubt.
        Also, Thompson once considered joining the army, but was rejected for being "too slight". I thought of this when someone further up the thread asked about the Ripper's supposed strength and whether Thompson was "powerful". I'd say no.
        Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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        Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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        • The Rookie Detective
          Superintendent
          • Apr 2019
          • 2025

          #364
          Originally posted by Pcdunn View Post

          Also, Thompson once considered joining the army, but was rejected for being "too slight". I thought of this when someone further up the thread asked about the Ripper's supposed strength and whether Thompson was "powerful". I'd say no.
          That's a very important point.


          Thompson essentially failed the physical exam that meant he wasn't accepted into the army.

          He didn't have the minimal requirements needed to join.

          At face value it would seem that he simply didn't have the physical prowess and strength required to have been able to dominate and throttle several women.

          But it is possible that there was a "Jekyll and Hyde" effect with Thompson.
          It is very possible that a man who initially presents as a quite, placed and physically inferior specimen, can suddenly change into something quite different.
          In a fit of rage and savagery, even a man of slight frame, could be capable of great strength and possess the ability to have enhanced strength and power.

          This may have been the reason why nobody would ever consider a man like Thompson, because based on his default physical appearance, he would seem incapable of obliterating women through initial strangulation.

          "Great minds, don't think alike"

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