The Jack the Ripper Mystery is Finally Solved — Scientifically

[Herlock Sholmes]

"I sent up two men, and there he was; but, polished farthings and all, he proved an alibi without the shadow of doubt."

Also Richard, could you please help me with the source/s that you're using for the farthing bit with Thompson? I truly haven't heard you mention it before. I'm not doubting you, I just want to see the context is all.

Hi Jerry,

I’m currently re-reading Walsh’s biography of Thompson and came across this:

While walking along the crowded sidewalk he heard a clink on the pavement and looked down to see a coin rolling in the gutter. He picked it up thinking it was a bright new halfpenny and, when no one stepped forward, put it in his pocket. Wandering back the same way a few minutes later he saw another coin in the same place, picked it up and discovered it was a gold sovereign. Excitedly he looked at the first coin: “That was a sovereign, too, Evi; I looked and saw it was a sovereign too!”

I’m fairly certain that ‘Evi’ was Everard Meynell, the son of Wilfrid. Everard was Thompson’s first biographer. Unless Richard is aware of another coin related event where Thompson actually tried to pass off polished coins I can’t see the connection between this event and anything that Major Smith said about his medical student.

[FISHY1118]

We were quoting Bond, who saw "no evidence of scientific or anatomical knowledge, not even that of a slaughterer" and this was "in each case". It doesn't matter what order he performed his evil work, Bond saw no evidence of the skills you insist he had. Presumably the excisions were performed roughly and not surgically, I don't know, but his opinion, which is all that is being discussed, was no evidence of expertise. Personally, I don't have a high opinion of Bond, I have a higher opinion of Phillips and Brown, but the point being claimed was that he clearly stated he saw no evidence of expertise. It would have been ridiculous for him to say that if he saw even a hint of surgical know-how in the excisions.

With the ''Mutlilation'' not the Heart Removal ,which he decribes in his post mortem as a known new Medical Procedure , and please dont reply with he didnt say it was , i know that ,we all know that , my point being he ''Described'' it as such . Conclusion ? , Medical Skill Heart Removal ..... No evidence of scientific or anatomical knowledge Mutilation . SIMPLE.

[Richard Patterson]

"I sent up two men, and there he was; but, polished farthings and all, he proved an alibi without the shadow of doubt."

Also Richard, could you please help me with the source/s that you're using for the farthing bit with Thompson? I truly haven't heard you mention it before. I'm not doubting you, I just want to see the context is all.

You will find it in Everard Meynell’s, “Life of Francis Thompson” 1913 edition.

[FISHY1118]

This raises a very obvious question Fishy. Why did you just accept it as being true without checking the facts first?

I, on the other hand, have just begun re-reading Strange Harp, Strange Symphony. It’s biography of Thompson by John Walsh and I’m reading it again because I’d like to refresh my memory of what an unbiased writer wrote about him.

I could ask you the same question Herlock, Why did you accept it wasnt ? as yet, i havent seen anything presented to let belive otherwise . I seen a lot of post that claim its all untru but very little or no evidence to prove it so .

[FISHY1118]

No he didn’t. He said quite clearly that: “ In my opinion he does not even possess the technical knowledge of a butcher or horse slaughterer or any person accustomed to cut up dead animals.”

That is what Bond thought. At no time ever did he say “the heart was removed using a procedure that only a medical expert would have been able to perform.” Or anything remotely like it.

Its as simple as that. So, of Brown, Sequiera, Bond and Phillips only Phillips saw evidence of medical knowledge. That’s one in four Fishy.

I can only offer up this reply , as ive already explained .

With the ''Mutlilation'' not the Heart Removal ,which he decribes in his post mortem as a known new Medical Procedure , and please dont reply with he didnt say it was , i know that ,we all know that , my point being he ''Described'' it as such . Conclusion ? , Medical Skill Heart Removal ..... No evidence of scientific or anatomical knowledge Mutilation .

I given valid reasons why Dr Bond didnt yell it from the rooftops in previous post so i think ill leave it at that .

[Richard Patterson]

I can only offer up this reply , as ive already explained .

With the ''Mutlilation'' not the Heart Removal ,which he decribes in his post mortem as a known new Medical Procedure , and please dont reply with he didnt say it was , i know that ,we all know that , my point being he ''Described'' it as such . Conclusion ? , Medical Skill Heart Removal ..... No evidence of scientific or anatomical knowledge Mutilation .

I given valid reasons why Dr Bond didnt yell it from the rooftops in previous post so i think ill leave it at that .

Bond stated in the autopsy report that the pericardium was open from below and the heart was absent. Accessing the heart from the abdominal cavity was leading edge at the time, and the surgical removal of the heart from its enclosing sheath does not meet the description of a slash and grab. I would suggest that Bond's knowledge of the latest medical procedures was not up to standard. If you do some research into Bond, including Prosector's remarks on the subject, you may deduce that Bond was far from being in the same league as Phillips and Brown.

[Richard Patterson]

With the ''Mutlilation'' not the Heart Removal ,which he decribes in his post mortem as a known new Medical Procedure , and please dont reply with he didnt say it was , i know that ,we all know that , my point being he ''Described'' it as such . Conclusion ? , Medical Skill Heart Removal ..... No evidence of scientific or anatomical knowledge Mutilation . SIMPLE.

Bond stated in the autopsy report that the pericardium was open from below and the heart was absent. Accessing the heart from the abdominal cavity was leading edge at the time, and the surgical removal of the heart from its enclosing sheath does not meet the description of a slash and grab. I would suggest that Bond's knowledge of the latest medical procedures was not up to standard. If you do some research into Bond, including Prosector's remarks on the subject, you may deduce that Bond was far from being in the same league as Phillips and Brown.

[FISHY1118]

Bond stated in the autopsy report that the pericardium was open from below and the heart was absent. Accessing the heart from the abdominal cavity was leading edge at the time, and the surgical removal of the heart from its enclosing sheath does not meet the description of a slash and grab. I would suggest that Bond's knowledge of the latest medical procedures was not up to standard. If you do some research into Bond, including Prosector's remarks on the subject, you may deduce that Bond was far from being in the same league as Phillips and Brown.

Thanks for that Richard , it seems to me that Bond , whether he knew it or not in describing the way kellys heart was removed ,that his unwittingly giving us ''Medical Knowledge'' the killer had to have had ? Even tho Bond might not have known it at the time , would that be a fair assessment ?

[Richard Patterson]

You clearly don’t need a knowledge of these murders because you simply invent your own Richard. Annie Chapman was killed at 5.30am a time at which blood would have been entirely visible. Mary Jane Kelly was killed in a lit room. And why do you think that you can get away with homing in on the ‘repugnance at flowing blood’ and yet you sidestep the repugnance at dissecting corpses. How could this be a man that not only killed and mutilated but removed organs.

Only a man obsessively defending a theory could turn the fact that a man that was repelled by dissection and flowing blood into a point in his favour of his guilt. It’s a joke.

Herlock, the idea that Francis Thompson was some fragile, squeamish soul who “couldn’t possibly” kill or dissect is a myth created long after the fact. The record of his medical training at Owens College tells a very different story.

Daily attendance was compulsory, and Thompson’s name appears term after term in the university calendars. Bridget Boardman, in Between Heaven & Charing Cross (1988), makes it plain that Owens was one of the most modern and progressive medical schools in Britain. Anatomy was the core of the curriculum, and cadaver work was not optional. “Anatomy had always occupied a central place in training and the dissecting of cadavers was accompanied by far more practical experience in assisting at operations… his time was almost equally divided between the college and the hospital.” Students were deliberately discouraged from hiding away in the library — practical dissection was the whole point.

Nor was it for the faint-hearted. Applicants were required to show high physical strength so they could endure the workload and restrain struggling patients. Thompson lasted six years under those conditions. His sister Mary recalled with exasperation: “Many a time he asked my father for £3 or £4 for dissecting fees; so often that my father remarked what a number of corpses he was cutting up.” That is not the picture of a man who fled the dissecting room. It’s the picture of a student surgeon who cut up hundreds of cadavers and assisted in countless operations at the Manchester Royal Infirmary — the equivalent of a modern emergency department.

So when you suggest his “repugnance” at blood or dissection means he could not have mutilated or removed organs, you’re ignoring the evidence. His aversion didn’t prevent him from doing the work — it marked him, and it shaped the method we see in Whitechapel. A man who loathed the sight of spurting blood learned to avoid it. Owens trained him in techniques to keep himself clean, and the crime scenes show exactly that: victims seized, suffocated, laid flat, then cut.

The irony is brutal but clear. Thompson both hated and loved blood. He was steeped in cadaver work, forced through it for six years, and it left its imprint. The Whitechapel murders don’t contradict that biography — they confirm it.

[Richard Patterson]

Hi Jerry,

I’m currently re-reading Walsh’s biography of Thompson and came across this:

While walking along the crowded sidewalk he heard a clink on the pavement and looked down to see a coin rolling in the gutter. He picked it up thinking it was a bright new halfpenny and, when no one stepped forward, put it in his pocket. Wandering back the same way a few minutes later he saw another coin in the same place, picked it up and discovered it was a gold sovereign. Excitedly he looked at the first coin: “That was a sovereign, too, Evi; I looked and saw it was a sovereign too!”

I’m fairly certain that ‘Evi’ was Everard Meynell, the son of Wilfrid. Everard was Thompson’s first biographer. Unless Richard is aware of another coin related event where Thompson actually tried to pass off polished coins I can’t see the connection between this event and anything that Major Smith said about his medical student.

Hi Herlock, thanks for raising this — I can see how the coin anecdotes could blur together if they’re taken out of context.

The sovereign story you’ve quoted is indeed from Walsh via Everard Meynell. That was Thompson marvelling at his “luck” when he picked up two coins in the street. It’s a curiosity, but it’s not what I’ve been referring to.

The “polished farthings” comes from Major Henry Smith’s description of the Rupert Street suspect. Smith explicitly said that his suspect was known for passing off brightened farthings as sovereigns when dealing with prostitutes. That detail — along with “ex-medical student,” “asylum inmate,” “prostitute associate,” and “Rupert Street” — forms the five-point convergence I’ve been working on.

Thompson matches every one of those points. He had the medical training at Owens, he had been through a breakdown and sent to Storrington Priory, he had a year-long relationship with a prostitute who fled him, and he was living right by Rupert Street at the time of the murders. When you add to that the coin anecdote (Meynell’s son recording Thompson talking about finding/pocketing coins, which shows that this theme of “coin luck” or trickery was already in circulation in his circle), it aligns with Smith’s polished farthings remark rather than contradicting it.

So: Walsh’s anecdote isn’t the polished farthings episode itself — it’s just further evidence that Thompson had stories of coins and deception tied to his name. The “polished farthings” is Smith’s phrase in his police memoirs, and that’s the source I’ve been using when I include it in the probability set.

[Richard Patterson]

You have unsurprisingly decided to avoid answering my question about Thompson being in an asylum. I can see why.

I can find no mention of Thompson ever being in an asylum as Smith’s ‘suspect’ supposedly had. After he had met Meynell in the latter part of 1888 he was sent to a private hospital (which can’t be described as an asylum) due to his poor health resulting from his drug addiction. Walsh dates this to October of 1888 but admits that he does this from Thompson’s poetry. Thompson was there for 6 weeks. This means of course that, if October is correct, then he couldn’t have murdered Mary Kelly. That aside, then next time that Thompson was in any kind of institution was the Priory at Storrington and that was in 1889.

Therefore a) we have no evidence of Thompson being in an asylum, and b) the only institutions that he was in are the private hospital (probably in October 1888) and then the Priory in 1889.

How then could Major Smith write to Charles Warren just after the murder of Annie Chapman to tell him about this medical student who had been in an asylum? Clearly he can’t have been talking about Thompson.

You say there is “no evidence” Thompson was ever in an asylum. That simply isn’t correct. His own uncle, James Thompson, testified that Francis “had been afflicted with a nervous breakdown before leaving Manchester, from the effects of which he never fully recovered.” (Between Heaven and Charing Cross, pp. 50–51). The Owens College register confirms his absence from the summer 1882 session, which aligns with this breakdown. Afterward he was sent to the Priory at Storrington. That is precisely the sort of institutional confinement Major Smith was referring to when he listed “asylum history” among the suspect’s features.

The fact that later biographers like Walsh or Meynell smoothed over or re-labelled these episodes does not erase the record. Victorian usage of “asylum,” “priory,” and “private hospital” overlapped — the key point is that Thompson had been institutionalised following a nervous collapse, and this was known within his family and social circle. That matches Smith’s wording.

So when you ask “how could Smith write to Warren… about a medical student who had been in an asylum?” — the answer is simple: because Thompson had been. The documentary evidence from his uncle and the college confirms it.

— Richard

[Mike J. G.]

Herlock, Thompson’s “repugnance” at flowing blood is not a contradiction — it is exactly what links him to the Ripper’s method. He left medicine partly because of it, and yet, if anyone knew how to kill without being drenched in blood, it was him. Six years in infirmaries taught him, as Owens students were instructed, how to open vessels so the spray was directed away from the operator.

That matches the Whitechapel scenes. Nichols was killed in such darkness that Cross and Paul didn’t even notice blood at first. As the Journal of Investigative Psychology summary makes clear, the victims were seized, suffocated, lowered flat, and only then cut — a method that minimised spurting and left the killer clean enough to vanish.

In other words: the aversion to flowing blood is mimicked in the murders themselves. Thompson knew how to achieve that result. Far from ruling him out, it strengthens the case. And the irony is that while he hated the sight of blood in practice, he was obsessed with it in poetry and prose — “Red has come to be a colour feared; it ought rather to be the colour loved… the tinge of clotted blood… a prince of the Blood indeed.” Or in Nightmare of the Witch Babies: “The reeds they were pulpy with blood, blood, blood!”

So we are not talking about a squeamish man incapable of violence. We are talking about someone who both loathed and loved blood — and who shaped his crimes to control it. That is precisely what the Whitechapel evidence shows.

Herlock. Your ignorance of Thompson, I can forgive, but your lack of understanding of the Ripper crimes in this forum, makes discussions with you an uphill climb.

Sorry, fella, but I can't take this nonsense seriously.

[Mike J. G.]

Filby, I understand the instinct — the Ripper case has been littered with “final solutions” that turned out to be little more than hunches. Skepticism is healthy.

But what I’m arguing isn’t just a slogan. It’s based on a convergence of hard, documented evidence: six years of medical training under Julius Dreschfeld at Owens College, possession of a dissecting scalpel, documented nights in Whitechapel refuges, obsessive writings about prostitutes, and a police description from Major Henry Smith that Thompson alone matches point-for-point. When you add probability calculations, the odds of anyone else fitting that profile in 1888 London collapse to nearly zero.

So while most suspect theories rely on a diary, a coincidence, or a clever interpretation, this one rests on verifiable biographical facts that line up with what the police themselves recorded. That’s why I present it with confidence: not because I want to say “case closed” for the sake of it, but because the evidence is strong enough to demand it be taken seriously.

Chapman is a far more likely suspect, given what we know about him, tbh.

Lived in the area, was sadistic, had used a knife to threaten his wife, surgical training and an actual multiple murderer of women.

[Mike J. G.]

Filby, I appreciate you pressing the “sexual component” question, because it lets us look straight at what Thompson himself put on paper.

In Nightmare of the Witch-Babies we meet the “lusty knight” — a figure who doesn’t woo but rends, who rides not toward love but toward desecration. He is conjured in the poem as the scourge of a degenerate world, a knight whose passion is cutting, whose lust is mutilation. It isn’t romantic fantasy. It’s sexualised violence reframed as cleansing — the same twisted impulse we see in the Ripper murders, where the body of a prostitute becomes the text upon which rage and obsession are carved.

Now place that alongside what Thompson published under the pseudonym “Francis Tancred” in Catholics in Darkest England. Here he writes as a crusader, explicitly borrowing the name of a medieval knight of Jerusalem, and describes London’s streets as a kind of fallen Holy Land, black even in daylight, filled with “girls harlots in the mother’s womb.” He casts himself as one who “unveils secret meanings,” who “diagnoses the disease” of the city, and then — chillingly — declares that “the Assassin has left us a weapon which but needs a little practice to adapt it to the necessity of the day.”

This is not the language of a gentle poet. This is Thompson self-fashioning as the very “lusty knight” of his verse — a crusader-assassin, licensed in his own mind to cleanse London of corruption. The sexual motive is there, but refracted through a religious and moral lens: prostitutes are not women to him, they are “ulcers,” “blasphemies,” “harlots in the womb.” Cutting them open was, in his warped psyche, both a lust and a purification ritual.

And remember, when the West India Docks went up in flames on the very night of Nichols’ murder, Thompson was sleeping rough at a Salvation Army shelter nearby. Contemporary voices worried that the Army’s militant revivalism might inspire a deranged imitator to see killing as crusade. Thompson all but confesses to see killing as crusade. Thompson all but confesses to that role in his Tancred essay. When he tells readers that “the Assassin has left us a weapon which but needs a little practice to adapt it to the necessity of the day,” he is not writing as a detached social critic. He is writing as a man who already carries a surgeon’s scalpel in his pocket, who has lived among the very “harlots in the womb” he describes, and who has framed himself as both poet and knight, lusting not for love but for mutilation and purification.

So the “lusty knight” is not an ambiguous metaphor. It is Thompson’s alter ego. The poems, the essays, the biographical facts — they align. He saw himself as a crusader in London’s “darkest England,” wielding the blade of the Assassin in a moral war against prostitutes. When we recognise that, the supposed gap between literature and life collapses. His verse is his confession; his “lusty knight” was not imagined, but embodied in Whitechapel’s streets.

This is your interpretation, Richard. How you can paint this as fact, let alone "scientific" fact, is beyond me.

[Richard Patterson]

This is your interpretation, Richard. How you can paint this as fact, let alone "scientific" fact, is beyond me.

Let’s talk science. Or is it beyond you?

Step 1: Probability Thompson Was the Rupert Street Suspect

Major Henry Smith described the suspect as having: 1. Been a former medical student 2. Been in an asylum 3. Consorted with prostitutes 4. Committed coin fraud using polished farthings 5. Lived in the Haymarket district, often seen on Rupert Street

Each of these traits is rare. Based on historical estimates: • Medical student = 0.0005 (1 in 2,000) • Asylum history = 0.001 (1 in 1,000) • Consorted with prostitutes = 0.01 (1 in 100) • Coin fraud = 0.0001 (1 in 10,000) • Haymarket resident = 0.0001 (1 in 10,000)

Now multiply:

0.0005 × 0.001 × 0.01 × 0.0001 × 0.0001 = 0.00000000000000005

That’s: 0.00000000000000005 = \boxed{1 \text{ in } 20,000,000,000,000,000 \text{ (20 quadrillion, 16 zeros)}}

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✅ Step 2: Add Traits That Match Jack the Ripper

Now consider these 5 additional traits Thompson also had: 6. Anatomical knowledge (medical training) = 0.0005 (1 in 2,000) 7. Opium addiction = 0.002 (1 in 500) 8. Violent or sacrificial poetry = 0.0005 (1 in 2,000) 9. Disappeared after final Ripper murder = 0.001 (1 in 1,000) 10. Lived in East London at time of murders = 0.001 (1 in 1,000)

Multiply these:

0.0005 × 0.002 × 0.0005 × 0.001 × 0.001 = 0.0000000000000005

Which equals:

0.0000000000000005 = \boxed{1 \text{ in } 2,000,000,000,000,000 \text{ (2 quadrillion, 15 zeros)}}

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✅ Step 3: Combined Probability (All 10 Traits)

Now multiply both rare probabilities:

0.00000000000000005 × 0.0000000000000005 = 0.000000000000000000000000000000000025

Which equals:

\boxed{1 \text{ in } 40,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 \text{ (40 decillion, 34 zeros)}}

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Final Breakdown: • Probability that any man in London was the Rupert Street suspect: 1 in 20,000,000,000,000,000 (20 quadrillion, 16 zeros) • Probability that any man also matches Ripper traits: 1 in 2,000,000,000,000,000 (2 quadrillion, 15 zeros) • Combined probability that another person matches all 10 traits: 1 in 40,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (40 decillion, 34 zeros)

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Conclusion

The probability that anyone other than Francis Thompson could fit all 10 traits is less than:

\boxed{1 \text{ in } 40,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000}

This means the chance he was not Jack the Ripper is effectively zero.