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  • Tom_Wescott
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    Originally posted by Debra A View Post
    yes, well done Chris, David, Tom...although Tom could have mentioned the name John earlier on!
    I thought it might have been John but wasn't sure. Seems I came across that. I burned my bridges with the grandson of Morgan Davies by mentioning the Ripper connection before I was granted access to the archives. Someone else might want to contact him and try a different approach? He's a lawyer. But somewhere on the web is an inventory of what's left of Morgan Davies' personal papers and somewhere in there an Evans is mentioned, which means this item still exists in the archive. Word to your researcher.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • Debra A
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    yes, well done Chris, David, Tom...although Tom could have mentioned the name John earlier on!

    ...and well done Rob for finding the guy in the first place!
    Last edited by Debra A; 04-25-2008, 11:25 PM.

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  • Rob Clack
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    Thanks David, Chris and Tom, so John Morgan Evans must be the Morgan Evans in the London Hospital register. My dairyman turned sour then

    Rob

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  • Chris Scott
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    1901:
    Melrose, High Street, Cefnllys, Radnor
    Head: John M Evans aged 39 (Unmarried) born Llandegley - Physician
    Servants:
    Mary E Bennett aged 27 born Welshpool
    Herbert J Smith aged 20 born Montgomery - Coachman

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  • Chris Scott
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    many thanks for the info guys

    Here is the family in 1891:
    Falday, Llandegley, radnor
    Head: John S M Evans aged 79 born Llangeitho - Physician and Surgeon registered
    Wife: Caroline Evans aged 68 born Llanvihangel
    Children:
    John M Evans aged 29 (Unmarried) - General practitioner (Registered)
    Hannah E Evans aged 27
    Grandchildren:
    Blanche E Jackson aged 12
    Katherine A Jackson aged 11

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  • David Knott
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    Just googled and found these ...



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  • Tom_Wescott
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    I believe John Evans was the name of Dr. Morgan Davies' correspondent.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • David Knott
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    Chris,

    I believe that John Morgan Evans is the right man. I think he returned to Wales, so you probably won't find him on the London census from 1891 onwards.

    David

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  • Chris Scott
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    The London Hospital entry showed Morgan Evans aged 27, so he would have been born in 1861 or thereabouts. Going back to the previous census (when Evans would presumably still be in training) I could find no man of this name in the England census of appropriate age who had a medical connection.
    However, his name suggests strongly a Welsh origin so I searched the 1881 Welsh census for a Morgan Evans born 1861 (+ or - 1 year) and there were 9 results. 8 of these were manual labourers (blacksmith, colliers etc.) but the one below caught my eye:

    Faldy, Llandegley, Radnorshire
    Head: John Samuel M Evans aged 62 born Tregaron - Surgeon and farmer of 75 acres
    Wife: Caroline Evans aged 58 born Llanfihangel
    Children: Elizabeth C Jackson (Married) aged 29
    Richard T Evans aged 23 - Farmer's son
    John Morgan Evans aged 19 - Medical Student
    Hannah Ellen Evans aged 17
    All born in Llanfihangel
    Grandsons:
    John Martin M Evans aged 7 born Llandegley
    Blanche E Jackson aged 2 born Liverpool

    The fact that the married daughter's name is Jackson, the same as the family at 89 Turner Street where Morgan Evans lodged, may be significant.

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  • Debra A
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    Hi Chris, yeah, I mentioned him to Rob before I knew that the Morgan Evans he had found was a surgeon. I was interested in the Morgan Davies Evans chemist in the West end too before Rob sent me the full details of age and occupation.
    BTW re the medical student lodger at Turner St, there are 2 Francis Jackson's in the 1913 medical register, one Francis Seymour and one Francis william, I see Francis as well.

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  • Chris Scott
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    Hi Rob and dens
    I saw the dairyman you mentioned but apart from the age difference I think this is unlikely that in 3 years he would have gone from a surgeon to a dairyman
    I will keep looking!
    Chris

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    Thanks for the clarification, Rob. The 'Morgan' thing was throwing me off. You're a gentleman and a scholar.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • Rob Clack
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    There was a Morgan Evans, Surgeon in the London Hospital reconds Tom. This is the only Evans I found who could be the Dr. Evans mentioned in Stephensons statement.

    Thanks Debs.

    Rob

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    Who's this Dr. Morgan Evans? Dr. Evans' first name was likely not Morgan. Dr. Morgan Davies' personal archives mention correspondence with a Mr. Evans, though.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • Debra A
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    That was before I knew he was a surgeon though Rob, the dairy link with Dr Morgan Davies' father was at the back of my mind on that one.

    There isn't a Dr Morgan Evans in the 1913 medical directory. The only place I've seen a Dr Morgan Evans mentioned was to do with the history of an old house in Wales, built by a Dr Morgan-Evans as a house and surgery in 1903, even then I think the name is a double barrelled surname as it appears with a hyphen.
    Last edited by Debra A; 04-25-2008, 09:34 PM.

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