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  • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
    My approach is not to focus on anything Barrett said and look at the independent evidence.
    As we say in Newcastle, hadaway and shite, man. I very nearly spilt me pint and dropped both me tabs reading that utter mince. Even me whippet passed wind. Your obsession with the April 1999 meeting is rather patently at odds with the above claim. I can't believe you typed that in any way seriously (which actually confirms my growing suspicion that your sudden Maybrick obsession is less than sincerely felt).

    I'm not saying that he was definitely the forger but I'm just not seeing any reason why he and his wife couldn't have been. I keep asking for a reason but I'm not given one.​
    Now I know you're on the wind-up. Asked and answered.
    Iconoclast
    Materials: HistoryvsMaybrick – Dropbox

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    • Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post

      As we say in Newcastle, hadaway and shite, man. I very nearly spilt me pint and dropped both me tabs reading that utter mince. Even me whippet passed wind. Your obsession with the April 1999 meeting is rather patently at odds with the above claim. I can't believe you typed that in any way seriously (which actually confirms my growing suspicion that your sudden Maybrick obsession is less than sincerely felt).



      Now I know you're on the wind-up. Asked and answered.
      If you spent a bit more time concentrating and a little less time drinking, Ike, you would surely have spotted that the only reason I mentioned the April 1999 meeting was because you were obsessing over the chronology of events set out in Barrett's affidavit. What I was saying to you was that if you truly want to understand Barrett's account you need to look at what he said in his own words at the April 1999 meeting rather than what Alan Gray thought his account was.

      Where I have I ever made a positive point in favour of Barrett's authorship from something he said at the April 1999 meeting? I would literally never have mentioned it had it not been for you being determined to tell us that Barrett's account of the forgery is incoherent. As I've said, and you've not challenged, Barrett told a coherent story in 1999 which is consistent with the timing of the purchase of the red diary and the acquisition of a photograph album.

      I've no idea why you think I might be winding you up when I make clear that I'm not saying Barrett was definitely the forger. It's something I've been saying day after day for the past three or four months. And I have been asking on an almost daily basis for a reason why they couldn't have been. The only thing you've come up with is Rod McNeil, about which you embarrassed yourself once again, claiming falsely that his test has been used by the US Secret Service and FBI, and ignoring that if the result of his test on the diary was correct it couldn't possibly have been written by James Maybrick.​
      Regards

      Sir Herlock Sholmes.

      “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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      • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
        I've no idea why you think I might be winding you up when I make clear that I'm not saying Barrett was definitely the forger. It's something I've been saying day after day for the past three or four months. And I have been asking on an almost daily basis for a reason why they couldn't have been.
        The handwriting. If you think the handwriting is Anne's (and not Mike's).

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        • Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post

          There is some bloke whose initials appear to be A.I. whose views are first up on a simple Google search and he says:

          Floorboard protectors are products designed to shield flooring from damage during construction, renovation, or simply from everyday wear and tear. These protectors can be temporary sheets, films, or even permanent solutions like felt pads to prevent scratches, dents, and other issues.
          Types of Floorboard Protectors:
          • Correx Sheets:
            These are durable, fluted polypropylene sheets often used for temporary floor protection during construction or renovation, as they can be easily laid down and removed without leaving residue,
            says Sitepro Direct.
          • Adhesive Films:
            These are thin, self-adhesive films that can be applied directly to the floor, offering a protective barrier against spills, scratches, and dust.
          • Floor Cards:
            These are strong, heavy-duty cardboard sheets that can be rolled out and cut to size for floor protection, especially in high-traffic areas,
            according to Protecta Screen.
          • Felt Pads:
            These are soft pads often used under furniture legs to prevent scratches on hard floors and provide a more comfortable and quieter experience.
          • Rubber Matting:
            This is a more durable and robust option for protecting floors, particularly in areas with heavy foot traffic or where there's a risk of spills or accidents,
            says Protecta Screen.
          • Dust Sheets:
            These are general-purpose coverings that can be used on floors, furniture, and other surfaces to prevent dust and dirt from settling during cleaning or renovation.
          Now, this is April 14, 2025 and the above appears to be related to domestic use so I can't say with any certainty​ whether this is an appropriate answer to the question of whether commercial use in 1992 would have required some other purpose than protecting from table legs and what have you. It isn't instinctively obvious because domestic use would presumably be long-term and require some some of aesthetic effect (unless being installed in Biffa Bacon's house, of course, where the money would have been redirected into beer and tabs) whereas short-term commercial use could surely be served by old, re-usable blankets or even four pairs of your old underpants, RJ.

          So I don't think we are any the wiser unless we have any Floorboard-Raising Technicians amongst us who were ideally floorboard-raising back in 1992?
          Evening Ike,

          Well it would have been Colin Rhodes who decided that the rewiring job on 9th and 10th March 1992, in preparation for the storage heaters to be installed [which was done three months later on 9th June 1992] required the floorboard protectors, which were included among the materials he charged to Paul Dodd according to that week's work sheet.

          As Colin and Keith Skinner were consulting the work sheet together, when Keith recalled that 9th March 1992 was also the date of the first known reference on record to Mike's diary, I would have expected Colin to recall what the floorboard protectors were needed for and what they weren't, and that he would not have told Keith that any actual floorboards needed lifting in order to carry out the work, if that was not the case, or if he was aware that Paul Dodd may have done the lifting himself before going off to his day job, which would have put Colin's former employees in the clear if it had applied on this occasion. Perhaps Paul Dodd had asked Colin for floorboard protectors for some other reason, not directly connected with lifting actual floorboards, and Colin had forgotten or neglected to explain this to Keith.

          Once again, we have a businessman who could have been expected to understand and interpret his own work sheets, and to have told Keith if the reference to 'floorboard protectors' was misleading and didn't automatically imply the lifting of any floorboards - except that in this case he said they were lifted. He also conceded the possibility of an employee finding hidden items that way, citing the example of a woman whose late husband had hidden cash under their floorboards, which was found by electricians - and returned to her on that occasion. IIRC Colin suggested it might have been different if their "boss" had not been present. Why mention such an incident at all to a diary researcher, if Colin had any doubts that floorboards had been lifted on 9th March 1992 by his own crew members?

          Love,

          Caz
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          "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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          • Originally posted by caz View Post
            Once again, we have a businessman who could have been expected to understand and interpret his own work sheets …
            Yes, as I recall, Colin knew exactly what Keith was asking about and what he was asking it for and you just would have thought he would have thought to mention it if he suspected or realised that Keith was going down the wrong path. It feels a little bit like those expert metallurgists who forgot to mention that aged particles could be embedded in scratches using an old implement and that scratches could be aged by simply buffing them up a bit with a dirty old hanky. And that docment bloke (or whatever he was) who said that the scrapbook ink was ‘freely soluble’ and failed to say, “which means, of course, that it only went on the paper in the last few months”.

            But who are we, Caz, to question the wisdom of Barrett-believers who know everything, all of the time, and are never wrong?
            Iconoclast
            Materials: HistoryvsMaybrick – Dropbox

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            • Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post

              The handwriting. If you think the handwriting is Anne's (and not Mike's).
              Good point, Scotty.

              Mike knew he couldn't claim it was his handwriting and hope that anyone with more than two brain cells would swallow it. If he was going to make his forgery claim credible he had to appoint a patsy - or an Anne - who in theory might have had the necessary skill, patience and doormat qualities to have disguised her handwriting over 63 pages, for a husband who was likely to reward her by pissing any proceeds up the wall and behaving like a complete arse.

              What Herlock and other commentators lack is any evidence that this theory about Anne's character and capabilities could be true. It's all very well to ask why it couldn't, but that misses the point and avoids addressing the rather crucial question of why they believe it could, when they don't know the woman from a bar of soap. I didn't know her well enough to be sure of her true character and capabilities, but I do know Mike "Matilda" Barrett was capable of telling such dreadful lies, that his grudge against Anne was unlikely to have changed him for the better, and persuaded him to start telling the God's honest truth about her.

              Mike could have picked on Tony Devereux instead - no libel implications as he was dead - but did he have the faintest idea how the diary handwriting might compare to that of his old "friend"? Melvin Harris had Citizen Kane in his sights, and if only Mike had known of this old boy's existence, and his association with Devereux as a witness to his Will, he would surely have enjoyed more success by naming him as the penman in his affidavit.

              But by accusing his estranged wife, which seems to have taken off in October 1994, Mike was trying to kill two birds with one stone. He could get revenge for the humiliation he had felt when she left him, and had felt all over again when she cut off his balls by telling Feldman the diary was all about the Graham side of the family and she had kept Mike in the dark all along; and he could make impressionable people believe that the diary was in her handwriting - or at least 50-50 - and that it wasn't remotely illogical that she would have made herself the centre of attention from July 1994 if that had actually been the case.

              Love,

              Caz
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