The Diary — Old Hoax or New or Not a Hoax at All?​

[rjpalmer]

"Joe Barnett wasn’t living with Mary Jane for 10 days. That’s another key to the story that went conveniently missing.

Could something have taken place during those 10 days when he wasn’t there?"

Except that that night, after the inquest closed and Abberline gave his deposition, it was widely reported that the key had been found.

A lot seems to have happened after the closing of the inquest, including George Hutchinson's arrival on the scene, but I don't suppose he had the key, do you?

Or do you think the key was found in Maybrick's lair on Middlesex Street?

[Herlock Sholmes]

Joe Barnett wasn’t living with Mary Jane for 10 days. That’s another key to the story that went conveniently missing.

Could something have taken place during those 10 days when he wasn’t there?

Nice cherry though!

“I love the smell of desperation in the morning.”

[Lombro2]

Desperate people are the ones desperate to convert two people on authenticity and two more on the Barrett Hoax theory.

[Lombro2]

And one of the guys you’re trying to convince with “Barrett said the key was lost” is the guy who believes Mary was pregnant and had a kid while with Barrett who was similarly lost or mum.

Sometimes it’s best to keep up and know who you’re talking to and what their theories are regarding the actual case.

[rjpalmer]

And one of the guys you’re trying to convince with “Barrett said the key was lost” is the guy who believes Mary was pregnant and had a kid while with Barrett who was equally lost or mum.

Yes, that's what we're saying. Barrett said the key was lost...when it wasn't.

Interesting Freudian slip.

[Herlock Sholmes]

There’s absolutely nothing that would convince a blinkered believer Roger. Here we have our ‘Maybrick’ saying that he took away a key that wasn’t actually taken away and it’s not a problem to Lombro. What planet are we on here? And people wonder why frustration seeps in.

[Lombro2]

So Jack can’t take the key and then toss it?

He’d be another C Kniclo then if he took the key.

Meanwhile your same friend is on the Carrie site with guys who say C Kniclo aka the “Danish Farmhand” was an idiot for not ditching the key!

[Lombro2]

Didn’t your friend say “non-existent”. Did you correct him? Or were you too afraid?

Oh, and thank you for showing everyone that Barnett was clueless.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Can’t you just type a post in plain, understandable by all English? Everything is a riddle with you. Hint and clues and vagueries. Just spit it out and say what you mean. You post a two liner and you have to read it 5 times to try and tease out a meaning!

The diary writer said that he took the key.

He didn’t.

Therefore he wasn’t the ripper.

No need for further comment or excruciating efforts at excuse making (the stock-in-trade of desperate diary defenders)

[Lombro2]

You said the key didn’t exist. Didn’t you?

It did exist. It was in the room.

Guess what? The window was broken. Unless the key was tucked in a drawer away from the window. it could have been tossed back in.

Therefore Jack doesn’t have to be C Kniclo.

So Barrett either copied Barrett or James didn’t and they both get off Scott-free.

But wriggle room isn’t good enough for us because you can make blanket statements where none is allowed.

[Abby Normal]

This thread reminds me of a big steaming pile of shnikey. and the flies are starting to gather lol.
someone mentioned a limerick?

Ok ill start.

There once was a man named Barrett
Whos nose was as long as a ferret
He said I found Jack!
Then took it all back
And flew away on a giant blue parrot

thank you im here all tje week

[Darryl Kenyon]

There once was a supposed diary
Regarding Jim from high society
Written as if he was Jack
But it's a one-off awful hack
Forged, no doubt in it's entirety

Regards Darryl

[Herlock Sholmes]

You said the key didn’t exist. Didn’t you?

It did exist. It was in the room.

Guess what? The window was broken. Unless the key was tucked in a drawer away from the window. it could have been tossed back in.

Therefore Jack doesn’t have to be C Kniclo.

So Barrett either copied Barrett or James didn’t and they both get off Scott-free.

But wriggle room isn’t good enough for us because you can make blanket statements where none is allowed.

No, of course I didn't say the key "didn't exist". Of course it existed - it didn't dematerialize - but it was lost.

What I said was that the diary author claimed to have fled with a non-existent key by which I meant a key that could not possibly have existed in reality and one he could not possibly have taken from Miller's Court because it had been lost.

I'm not sure what evidential basis you have to say that the key was "in the room". Where does this come from? (Oh yes…you made it up) If it comes from the unverified newspaper report Roger posted that the key had been found, and if this report was accurate, this immediately disproves the idea that the killer fled with the key, doesn't it? Which makes the diary a fake, doesn't it?

[drstrange169]

I once wrote a book that I really didn’t write.

Changed my mind and felt quite contrite.

Then floorboards under,

Hid a one-off blunder,

That spawned some trite on a casebook site.

[Yabs]

DrStrange is a poster in good health.

Who sneaked in a rhyme with quick stealth.

There was only one catch.

The syllables don’t match.

Perhaps he wrote the diary himself.