The Diary — Old Hoax or New or Not a Hoax at All?​

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  • Iconoclast
    Commissioner
    • Aug 2015
    • 4172

    #1171
    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
    The evidence clearly suggests that Anne and Mike Barrett are the authors of the Diary.
    Ridiculous post.
    Iconoclast
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    • rjpalmer
      Commissioner
      • Mar 2008
      • 4355

      #1172
      Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

      2. Do you realise that the words "he wanted a similar one for plausible deniability" are gibberish?
      All I can figure is that he thinks that if the police accused Mike of having bought the diary down the boozer, Mike could 'plausibly deny' this by proving he hoaxed it!

      The mind boggles.

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      • Iconoclast
        Commissioner
        • Aug 2015
        • 4172

        #1173
        Originally posted by rjpalmer View Post

        All I can figure is that he thinks that if the police accused Mike of having bought the diary down the boozer, Mike could 'plausibly deny' this by proving he hoaxed it!

        The mind boggles.
        Ridiculous post.

        The mind boggles that people posting regularly on the James Maybrick part of the Casebook need to be spoon-fed such a simple concept.

        Use your whole brain, not just the bit dedicated to prejudices and biases.
        Iconoclast
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        • rjpalmer
          Commissioner
          • Mar 2008
          • 4355

          #1174
          Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post

          Ridiculous post.

          The mind boggles that people posting regularly on the James Maybrick part of the Casebook need to be spoon-fed such a simple concept.

          Use your whole brain, not just the bit dedicated to prejudices and biases.
          Then either you--or Lombo--explain what he meant by 'plausible deniability.' Be precise.

          Why post gibberish and then go on the attack when no reasonable person can make either heads or tails of it?

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          • John Wheat
            Assistant Commissioner
            • Jul 2008
            • 3383

            #1175
            Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post

            Ridiculous post.

            The mind boggles that people posting regularly on the James Maybrick part of the Casebook need to be spoon-fed such a simple concept.

            Use your whole brain, not just the bit dedicated to prejudices and biases.
            Ridiculous post.

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            • Iconoclast
              Commissioner
              • Aug 2015
              • 4172

              #1176
              Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

              Ridiculous post.
              Ah - another member of that gang, eh?
              Iconoclast
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              • Lombro2
                Sergeant
                • Jun 2023
                • 563

                #1177
                More like a “group” that drinks from the same punch bowl.
                A Northern Italian invented Criminology but Thomas Harris surpassed us all. Except for Michael Barrett and his Diary of Jack the Ripper.

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                • Lombro2
                  Sergeant
                  • Jun 2023
                  • 563

                  #1178
                  If it doesn’t make sense, you need to stop giving your tuppence!
                  A Northern Italian invented Criminology but Thomas Harris surpassed us all. Except for Michael Barrett and his Diary of Jack the Ripper.

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                  • rjpalmer
                    Commissioner
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 4355

                    #1179
                    Originally posted by Lombro2 View Post
                    If it doesn’t make sense, you need to stop giving your tuppence!
                    That's your first sensible comment. Well done.

                    And you're right--I certainly don't expend any energy correcting the ravings of 'Crazy Jane' down at the local mall.

                    As for using the 'whole brain,' I learned rather early in life that doppelgangers need to look like one another.

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                    • Herlock Sholmes
                      Commissioner
                      • May 2017
                      • 22314

                      #1180
                      Originally posted by Lombro2 View Post
                      If it doesn’t make sense, you need to stop giving your tuppence!
                      A more logical response, Lombro, would be to say that if doesn't make sense you shouldn't have posted it.
                      Regards

                      Herlock Sholmes

                      ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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                      • Iconoclast
                        Commissioner
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 4172

                        #1181
                        Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
                        A more logical response, Lombro, would be to say that if doesn't make sense you shouldn't have posted it.
                        Well, that would require it to have not made sense - something which RJ (as we all knew) has just shown did not truthfully apply to him. He loves to jump in and stoke what little fire there may be before it goes out.

                        He didn't say that he agreed with it - but he absolutely showed that he knew exactly what was being referred to despite his poor attempts to pretend he didn't.

                        Which means that you're out on your own again. Becoming a trend that one, I think ...
                        Iconoclast
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                        • Herlock Sholmes
                          Commissioner
                          • May 2017
                          • 22314

                          #1182
                          Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post

                          Well, that would require it to have not made sense - something which RJ (as we all knew) has just shown did not truthfully apply to him. He loves to jump in and stoke what little fire there may be before it goes out.

                          He didn't say that he agreed with it - but he absolutely showed that he knew exactly what was being referred to despite his poor attempts to pretend he didn't.

                          Which means that you're out on your own again. Becoming a trend that one, I think ...
                          It's funny, Ike, that the one thing which hasn't happened since I posted this morning, many hours ago, is an explanation from either you or Lombro (or anyone else) as to how the acquisition by Mike of diary from the period 1880 to 1890 with a minimum of 20 blank pages was going to provide him with "plausible deniability". Deniability of what? Plausible, how? I assume it's not being answered because it's complete gibberish.

                          And, of course, my other question to Lombro has been ignored which, by way of reminder, was: "In your mind, is 20, and any number greater than 20, the same as 17?"

                          I do wonder if he realizes the advertisement placed on Mike's behalf expressly excluded an 1888 or 1889 diary with 17 blank pages. So, if a supplier had been in possession of such a diary, he or she would have seen that it didn't meet the criteria being asked for. Bit odd that isn't it, if, as Lombro tells us, Mike "had a diary in front of him already, with 17 blank pages" and the one thing he doesn't want is another diary with 17 blank pages?! It only adds to the gibberishness of whatever it is Lombro's trying to say. That's why an explanation is necessary if anyone is going to even begin to understand it.
                          Regards

                          Herlock Sholmes

                          ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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                          • Iconoclast
                            Commissioner
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 4172

                            #1183
                            Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
                            It's funny, Ike, that the one thing which hasn't happened since I posted this morning, many hours ago, is an explanation from either you or Lombro (or anyone else) as to how the acquisition by Mike of diary from the period 1880 to 1890 with a minimum of 20 blank pages was going to provide him with "plausible deniability". Deniability of what? Plausible, how? I assume it's not being answered because it's complete gibberish.
                            You should just ask your mate RJ - he kens the craic.

                            I do wonder if he realizes the advertisement placed on Mike's behalf expressly excluded an 1888 or 1889 diary with 17 blank pages. So, if a supplier had been in possession of such a diary, he or she would have seen that it didn't meet the criteria being asked for. Bit odd that isn't it, if, as Lombro tells us, Mike "had a diary in front of him already, with 17 blank pages" and the one thing he doesn't want is another diary with 17 blank pages?! It only adds to the gibberishness of whatever it is Lombro's trying to say. That's why an explanation is necessary if anyone is going to even begin to understand it.
                            Am I allowed to do what you and RJ and Orsam do all of the time and just come up with an answer that fits my argument and then refer to it as though it is a God-given truth and what have you?

                            If I am, can I suggest that it was 'simple'? Mike simply didn't count the number of blank pages at the back of the Maybrick scrapbook.

                            What's good for the goose is good for the gander and if Mike Barrett accepted an 1891 diary without seeking absolute clarity over its suitability for a hoaxed record of Jack the Ripper's thoughts, then he most certainly did not count the number of blank pages at the back of the one he already had.

                            And that's factual.
                            Iconoclast
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                            • Herlock Sholmes
                              Commissioner
                              • May 2017
                              • 22314

                              #1184
                              Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post

                              You should just ask your mate RJ - he kens the craic.



                              Am I allowed to do what you and RJ and Orsam do all of the time and just come up with an answer that fits my argument and then refer to it as though it is a God-given truth and what have you?

                              If I am, can I suggest that it was 'simple'? Mike simply didn't count the number of blank pages at the back of the Maybrick scrapbook.

                              What's good for the goose is good for the gander and if Mike Barrett accepted an 1891 diary without seeking absolute clarity over its suitability for a hoaxed record of Jack the Ripper's thoughts, then he most certainly did not count the number of blank pages at the back of the one he already had.

                              And that's factual.
                              Ike, did you miss Roger's #1172 where he posted: "All I can figure is that he thinks that if the police accused Mike of having bought the diary down the boozer, Mike could 'plausibly deny' this by proving he hoaxed it! The mind boggles". Oh no, you didn't because you replied to it! Now you try to tell me that Roger understands what "plausible deniability" means. Where do I find this?

                              All I see is Roger assuming that Lombro, unable to express himself properly, is talking about your daft doppleganger theory. That may be so. I assumed that too. But, in which case, what is the plausible deniability?

                              Once again, it's obvious you can't explain
                              Regards

                              Herlock Sholmes

                              ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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                              • Iconoclast
                                Commissioner
                                • Aug 2015
                                • 4172

                                #1185
                                Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
                                Once again, it's obvious you can't explain
                                I feel so humble in your presence. I wish I could explain what I mean in the way you can explain anything at all in the way you mean it to read even if there's no credible evidence for it.

                                And that's factual.
                                Iconoclast
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