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  • Iconoclast
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    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post

    Eeeehhh...? Which "friends" are we talking about? And what is it I "couldnīt"?

    I thought Iīd been very clear: I think the diary is bogus, but I am not willing to get drawn into the longwinded discussions about it, and so I stay away from it, by and large. Occasionally, when I see how people are not able to understand that we are allowed to point out flawed reasoning, regardless of which side of a discussion it comes from, I may contribute to the discussion by pointing such things out. Like when Gary Barnett pointed out that David Orsam was wrong if he thought that the aunt business was a singular blow to the diary theory that would bring it all tumbling down; it isnīt, and I agree fully with that.

    That does however not make me a proponent for the diary being kosher. I donīt believe it is and I never did.

    It is interesting that you should speak of how people abandon reason for politics, following it up by urging me on to "jump at the throats" of posters. If thatīs not politics, I donīt know what is.

    So, are we clear on things now?
    Well, Fisherman, me old friend, I think you have neatly summarised the surreal world we live in on the Maybrick element of the Casebook. Any comment whatsoever that does not damn the scrapbook to eternal Hell and ... erm ... damnation is to be 'jumped on' and the poster to be vilified as a fraud, someone perpetuating a hoax, an idiot, I think you know the rest ...

    And 'jump at the throats' is what tends to happen. It's rarely much less vitriolic than that.

    I don't give a **** - never have, currently don't, and never will; but I know that it bothers others (I get the occasional email to this effect) which causes them to hold their opinions to themselves so that the ones we tend to hear the most are the ones which people feel safest posting (i.e., those which support the hoax theory).

    I admire you and MrBarnett and others who have the balls to post what is factually or logically correct in the face of the Billy Bollocks we have to tolerate so often from the dark matter.

    Cheers,

    Ike

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  • Fisherman
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post


    Then why don't you jump on your friend's throats when they are defending this hoax and say this?!

    You know that a common originator for those two murders, Chapman and Jackson, proves that Maybrick was innocent and didn't write this Diary.


    But you couldn't.

    And that what makes Orsam different, he doesn't play politics.



    The Baron
    Eeeehhh...? Which "friends" are we talking about? And what is it I "couldnīt"?

    I thought Iīd been very clear: I think the diary is bogus, but I am not willing to get drawn into the longwinded discussions about it, and so I stay away from it, by and large. Occasionally, when I see how people are not able to understand that we are allowed to point out flawed reasoning, regardless of which side of a discussion it comes from, I may contribute to the discussion by pointing such things out. Like when Gary Barnett pointed out that David Orsam was wrong if he thought that the aunt business was a singular blow to the diary theory that would bring it all tumbling down; it isnīt, and I agree fully with that.

    That does however not make me a proponent for the diary being kosher. I donīt believe it is and I never did.

    It is interesting that you should speak of how people abandon reason for politics, following it up by urging me on to "jump at the throats" of posters. If thatīs not politics, I donīt know what is.

    So, are we clear on things now?

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post

    You are incorrigible, Abby!

    I should come clean: I think Charles Lechmere was the Ripper* and he forged the diary to throw suspicion onto Maybrick.

    *He didn’t kill Tabram, of course. The ID of her murderer is blindingly obvious.
    ooooo i like it! with maybricks wife and your blind guy just to get a conspiracy in there too!

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  • The Baron
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    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post

    As for Chapman and Jackson, that is for another thread, but no, in my mind there cannot be any reasonable doubt about a common originator. Fishy or not.

    Then why don't you jump on your friend's throats when they are defending this hoax and say this?!

    You know that a common originator for those two murders, Chapman and Jackson, proves that Maybrick was innocent and didn't write this Diary.


    But you couldn't.

    And that what makes Orsam different, he doesn't play politics.



    The Baron

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  • Fisherman
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    Originally posted by MrBarnett View Post

    Nicely timed, Fish - post 666.

    The devilīs in the details - well spotted!

    I was mistaken, the subliminal message is at the beginning of episode 2. ;-)
    There is some tapping going on there, I must admit. Not sure itīs coming from Foggyīs tapdancing on the grave of the idea of a carman killer of Tabram, though.

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  • Fisherman
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post


    You must be kidding

    Leaving him for what exactly?! to read your one man's fantasies?! And that The man who killed Chapman and Jackson is one and the same beyond any reasonable doubt!





    What a fishy advice!


    The Baron
    Baron, I wasnīt specifically suggesting that you tag along with me. It was a piece of advice more about going than coming.

    As for Chapman and Jackson, that is for another thread, but no, in my mind there cannot be any reasonable doubt about a common originator. Fishy or not.

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  • Al Bundy's Eyes
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    Originally posted by erobitha View Post

    Oh god no. I much prefer gasping for oxygen amidst the stale air in my dungeon.

    Best wishes to all of you.
    Oh Bugger! I knew I'd forgot something! Hang in there Ero, I'll be right back with the key! And some ointment.
    Last edited by Al Bundy's Eyes; 08-08-2020, 06:02 AM. Reason: There

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  • MrBarnett
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    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post

    Much as it may hurt you to hear it, I really could not make that out.
    Nicely timed, Fish - post 666.

    I was mistaken, the subliminal message is at the beginning of episode 2. ;-)

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  • StevenOwl
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post


    Since it is in David Orsam's handwriting, it is an absolute proof!


    He has no hidden agenda that colors his judgments, and one of the best -if not the best- objective researchers in the field.

    You should read more from him.


    The Baron
    Oh, get a room (once you've had your tongue surgically removed from Arse-um's rectum that is).

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  • erobitha
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post


    We have noticed this.

    Judging by the posts you keep giving like.

    But try to go out more, the fresh air, the feeling of the sun rays on your skin and a little more sport, surely would help.



    The Baron
    Oh god no. I much prefer gasping for oxygen amidst the stale air in my dungeon.

    Best wishes to all of you.

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  • The Baron
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    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post

    Going by your posts, it seems more like a case of you perhaps needing to read a little less from him.

    You must be kidding

    Leaving him for what exactly?! to read your one man's fantasies?! And that The man who killed Chapman and Jackson is one and the same beyond any reasonable doubt!





    What a fishy advice!


    The Baron

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  • The Baron
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    Originally posted by erobitha View Post

    I have a fascination with odd characters.

    We have noticed this.

    Judging by the posts you keep giving like.

    But try to go out more, the fresh air, the feeling of the sun rays on your skin and a little more sport, surely would help.



    The Baron

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  • erobitha
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    Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post

    Let him have his day, Fishy.

    I find it vaguely entertaining - I can't think why!

    Ike
    I have a fascination with odd characters. They seem to be so much more inetresting on a psychological level.

    All this talk of perhaps Maybrick sporting a multi personality disorder, and it transpires that we may well have a an actual live specimen on this very thread.

    It must be very tiring to disappoint so many people at once.

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  • Iconoclast
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    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post

    Going by your posts, it seems more like a case of you perhaps needing to read a little less from him.
    Let him have his day, Fishy.

    I find it vaguely entertaining - I can't think why!

    Ike

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  • Iconoclast
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    Originally posted by Ms Diddles View Post

    Look, if you like him, just ask him out.
    That would make for a very interesting dinner party, eh, TB?

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