The Diary—Old Hoax or New?

[Iconoclast]

It is interesting to take some time away from the debate and then return to it. I see Owly Owl maintaining a very creditable calmness in the face of the child’s one-liners (have you ever noticed how a child is absolutely incapable of taking a hint?) and ero b’s more strident - but utterly logical - defence of the watch despite The Baron’s boring, tunnel-visioned (just like drainpipes one might say) pursuit of the unproven as God’s Truth.

Obviously, I will be accused of bias here, but I couldn’t give a **** - the clickbait wind-ups and the cut and paste one liners give themselves away time and time again. Dilettantes.

Ike

[erobitha]

Said the one who spent his time defending a proven hoax


The Baron

Proven by who? Certainly not you. Orsam? RJ?

Do better.

[erobitha]

But you know it was not Maybrick, you know he couldn't have written "Bumbling Buffoon" because you yourself spent hours and days trying desperately to find a single damn example from the 19the century of the phrase and you failed, admit it if you have the courage.


The Baron

You're right. I slaved over it for months. Years. Decades.

Well, a couple of hours at least. I did find Babbling Buffoon from the 1850s, so the suggestion that it would have been impossible for Bumbling Buffoon to be used in everyday language (bearing in mind spoken language materialises long before the written word), I do not believe it to be impossible.

You need not question my courage. The sheer fact I even declare myself a Maybrickian despite the vitriol such a position invites by doing so is all you need to know about my character.

My main issue with the scrapbook lies with the handwriting. I cannot hang my hat on the K in the watch as a near-perfect example of Maybrick's handwriting, only to abandon such clarity when comparing the diary text, which does not match. I accept the argument made by others that it might not be his formal hand as a possibility, and I remain open to that possibility.

[The Baron]

Right now, you sound like a demented Parrott offering nothing of any value.

Said the one who spent his time defending a proven hoax


The Baron

[The Baron]

I don't know who wrote the diary

But you know it was not Maybrick, you know he couldn't have written "Bumbling Buffoon" because you yourself spent hours and days trying desperately to find a single damn example from the 19the century of the phrase and you failed, admit it if you have the courage.


The Baron

[erobitha]

The Watch is no more the real deal than the diary.

It's those depths of the debate you go to that really win people over.

If I believed you genuinely wanted to discuss the watch for one second, I would, but your only ambition is posting one-liners of nonsense.

You might enjoy the art of trolling, but I have faith that people with more critical thinking than you can present an open mind for discussion. Right now, you sound like a demented Parrott offering nothing of any value.

[John Wheat]

I don't know who wrote the diary, but I sure as hell believe Maybrick scratched his name into the watch. The evidence is pretty compelling, even if you do not want to accept it.

The Watch is no more the real deal than the diary.

[John Wheat]

He's right.

I know the Baron's right.

[erobitha]

You might want to try living in the real World. Where Maybrick was not the Ripper and the Barretts wrote the diary.

I don't know who wrote the diary, but I sure as hell believe Maybrick scratched his name into the watch. The evidence is pretty compelling, even if you do not want to accept it.

[John Wheat]

The most ill-informed post here!


The Baron

Absolutely Baron but Owly believes he's well informed but as they say ignorance is bliss.

[erobitha]

The most ill-informed post here!


The Baron

He's right.

[John Wheat]

Slightly less amusing one-liners for the reader's benefit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYznB09WukM

You might want to try living in the real World. Where Maybrick was not the Ripper and the Barretts wrote the diary.

[The Baron]

There is absolutely ZERO credible evidence that the Diary was written by the Barretts

The most ill-informed post here!


The Baron

[erobitha]

Ridiculous post. The Barretts wrote the diary end of.

Slightly less amusing one-liners for the reader's benefit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYznB09WukM

[John Wheat]

Hmmm, a published author now was he?

I've never said that Mike Barrett couldn't have written the Diary. Of course he could. So could any adult alive between 1888 and 1993. I simply stated that there's no credible evidence that Mike wrote it, and that (unlike your posts) is a fact. Even when Mike tried to prove that he wrote it, he couldn't. Even when Mike hired a private investigator to prove he wrote it, he still couldn't. That to me suggests that in all probability, he didn't write it. But he could have, and I acknowledge that, because I deal in facts, whereas you post opinions and sell them as facts. I think it's important that some of us on here stick to repeating those facts, otherwise casual visitors to the Maybrick threads on these message boards might mistake the kind of ill-informed posts by the likes of you and Fishy and as God's honest truth.

Ridiculous post. The Barretts wrote the diary end of.