One Incontrovertible, Unequivocal, Undeniable Fact Which Refutes the Diary

[Spider]

Admittedly, like Unterweger's, the Diaries are usually jailhouse Diaries, or else they're written by women or young men in their teens.

The Maybrick Diary would be unusual in that sense.

However, serial killers, mass murderers and bombers have been known to write poetry and manifestos, and Jack the Ripper did cross criminal profile boundaries into spree killing and possibly terrorism. So I think it's a logical fit.

From my brief reading of the cases, the majority are diaries found in their possession after their arrests rather than written following arrest.

[GUT]

Well according to sources on the internet, she did keep a diary and is doing time for the murder of more than one of her children which qualifies her as a serial killer who kept a diary. Whether she is guilty or not would be down to the court. Where she lived is not important for the purpose of my reply to a previous post.

The point is that many serial killers do keep diaries in answer to the aforementioned post.

Regards

1. Her place of residence shows how much you can rely on the internet.

2. The conviction is under judcial review.

3. How many of these diaries are contemporaneous with the crimes as Maybrick's purports to be and deal with the actual crimes? That is the real point and I suggest that was what the question was about, not how many keep diaries "I had eggs for breakfast" or "Lunch with Bob" or "Gaol sucks".

[Spider]

Contemporaneous with details of the killings in the main. I'm not going to go back to them in detail it was a quick dip in the ether.

[Batman]

What Spider is alluding too is that some killers kept notes on their murders. Like essays. That's possible.

What we are looking for is a full diary like Maybricks.

[GUT]

Contemporaneous with details of the killings in the main. I'm not going to go back to them in detail it was a quick dip in the ether.

Certainly not Folbigg

[Pcdunn]

Well it may just as well be the diary of a nobody, Pcdunn, since I doubt the handwriting will be positively identified in the next 25, or even 125 years.

Love,

Caz
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Ha! Yes, I see what you did there. Interesting...

[pinkmoon]

I think to many people wanted this diary to be true and did turn a blind eye to some very basic questions like the small one of where did it come from .

[MayBea]

I think it came from Battlecrease like you do.

What we are looking for is a full diary like Maybricks.

Since full 'diaries' of serial killers aren't published much, I don't think we'll find one.

[Rosella]

Well, I don't think it came from Battlecrease. I think Michael Barrett's confessions to having forged it was true, in spite of later retractions and I believe that the original journal was written in a Victorian album which had been used to display postcards and photographs, hence the torn-out pages.

[Batman]

I think it came from Battlecrease like you do.

Since full 'diaries' of serial killers aren't published much, I don't think we'll find one.

I don't think any serial killers have kept full diaries with their murders included like the Maybrick one. Maybe some essays or notes or memories of what they did, but nothing like this.

[MayBea]

The closest I've found would be the Karla Homolka Diary.

I've only found a couple of excerpts though. She lists her spouse's abuse and then says she's planning to go get her stuff and go out for a good time.

Interestingly, she started it late in the story, after she left her husband. It appears to me she was writing it in case she got caught.

http://www.allthingscrimeblog.com/20...acks-the-deck/

Karla wrote in her diary on January 21st:
“So confused about what to do with my life…don’t know where I should live or what career I should choose; fear that I will go back to him. I wouldn’t in a million years. I’d rather go to jail…I miss being in the hospital. I should have stayed longer. Dr. Plaskos gave me more Ativan..."

[pinkmoon]

Well, I don't think it came from Battlecrease. I think Michael Barrett's confessions to having forged it was true, in spite of later retractions and I believe that the original journal was written in a Victorian album which had been used to display postcards and photographs, hence the torn-out pages.

Mr Barretts not capable of forging anything

[MayBea]

The whoremaster, from my reading of the Diary, had to be someone who was in London when Florence went to visit "her aunt" and was at the Grand National. I see no other candidate besides Brierley.

Did Maybrick also possess the gift of being able to foresee the future? He refers throughout the Diary to his wife Florence and her lover as 'the whore' and 'the whoremaster'.
This undoubtedly refers to an affair between Florence and Alfred Brierley.

Casebook: James Maybrick

In 1887 Florie discovered there was another woman in her husband's life... Later that same year, Florie met Alfred Brierly, a cotton broker, with whom she also had an affair. By this time, the couple had probably moved to separate beds, and the first Ripper murder was less than nine months away.

I've looked into the matter of the whoremaster, and I've come to agree with Rosella. I think Maybrick had a gift of foresight or of common sense to know that his wife would move on after she cut him off, and to see she had eyes for Brierley who was a younger version of himself.

[Batman]

BTW - what is the actual response by Maybrick believers to the claim that it was predicted the diary would be missing front pages if a forgery... and was missing such pages on inspection?

[Livia]

According to her testimony, on the morning after James'
death during the search of the house, Mrs Hughes found
compromising letters in Florence's vanity. Charles Ratcliffe
(another cotton broker) wrote to John Aunspaugh
about these letters and said they were from Edwin Maybrick,
Williams, and Alfred Brierley, twenty-five in all. Mrs Hughes
gave these to Michael Maybrick, who presumably destroyed
them, as Michael says they will never be produced in court,
and Williams said the same. The Ratcliffe letter was found
by Keith Skinner in the Trevor Christie collection held at the
University of Wyoming. See page 361 of Feldman's book
for the full text of the Ratcliffe letter.