One Incontrovertible, Unequivocal, Undeniable Fact Which Refutes the Diary

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  • rjpalmer
    Commissioner
    • Mar 2008
    • 4240

    #10876
    Originally posted by erobitha View Post
    Not the scientific reports of metallurgists who date the scratches of considerable age, at least decades old, long before the diary's known existence.

    It's far easier for critics to sweep over the watch, but thankfully, I am here to ensure the public gets to understand the reality. Not what suits the critics narrative.
    Ever notice how Jay Hartley is always here to "ensure the public gets to understand the reality" of the watch, but he never actually quotes the reports?

    Could it have something to do with what Dr. Turgoose actually wrote in his conclusion?

    "However, whilst there is no evidence which would indicate a recent (last few years) origin of the engravings, it must be stressed that there are no features observed which conclusively prove the age of the engravings.

    They could have been produced recently and deliberately artificially aged by polishing, but this would have been a complex multistage process…."


    Full report here:

    Casebook: Jack the Ripper - Turgoose Report on the Maybrick Watch - 10 August 1993

    Enjoy.


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    • erobitha
      Chief Inspector
      • Apr 2019
      • 1730

      #10877
      Originally posted by rjpalmer View Post

      Ever notice how Jay Hartley is always here to "ensure the public gets to understand the reality" of the watch, but he never actually quotes the reports?

      Could it have something to do with what Dr. Turgoose actually wrote in his conclusion?

      "However, whilst there is no evidence which would indicate a recent (last few years) origin of the engravings, it must be stressed that there are no features observed which conclusively prove the age of the engravings.

      They could have been produced recently and deliberately artificially aged by polishing, but this would have been a complex multistage process…."


      Full report here:

      Casebook: Jack the Ripper - Turgoose Report on the Maybrick Watch - 10 August 1993

      Enjoy.


      I encourage everyone to read the reports.

      Turgoose explained how difficult it was to replicate these results. What he was actually saying is that with the right equipment and expertise, you might be able to replicate similar results, but it requires the right equipment and technical knowledge to pull it off with a "complex multi-stage process". Turgoose admitted himself he couldn't replicate it.

      But yet, we are to believe Albert, Robbie and now John White between them mastered this hoax.
      Last edited by erobitha; 04-13-2024, 08:57 PM.
      Author of 'Jack the Ripper: Threads' out now on Amazon > UK | USA | CA | AUS
      JayHartley.com

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      • erobitha
        Chief Inspector
        • Apr 2019
        • 1730

        #10878
        Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

        What a load of bullshit.
        Thanks again for dropping by with your invaluable input.
        Author of 'Jack the Ripper: Threads' out now on Amazon > UK | USA | CA | AUS
        JayHartley.com

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        • The Baron
          Inspector
          • Feb 2019
          • 1490

          #10879
          Originally posted by erobitha View Post

          We do not have the conclusive proof either way.



          And he wonders why he was labeled a diary defender

          A diary defender.. on steroids



          The Baron

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          • The Baron
            Inspector
            • Feb 2019
            • 1490

            #10880
            Originally posted by StevenOwl View Post

            Nope - 31 years on and still nobody has found a single piece of evidence which 100% proves the scrapbook was a modern fake.



            We've found .. we've found

            You just need to catch up with all of this.


            The Baron

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            • John Wheat
              Assistant Commissioner
              • Jul 2008
              • 3345

              #10881
              Originally posted by erobitha View Post

              Thanks again for dropping by with your invaluable input.
              No problem. You don't need to keep thanking me.

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              • FISHY1118
                *
                • May 2019
                • 3607

                #10882
                Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

                Its still true its a fake though.
                I did try tellin him.

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                • John Wheat
                  Assistant Commissioner
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3345

                  #10883
                  Originally posted by erobitha View Post

                  I encourage everyone to read the reports.

                  Turgoose explained how difficult it was to replicate these results. What he was actually saying is that with the right equipment and expertise, you might be able to replicate similar results, but it requires the right equipment and technical knowledge to pull it off with a "complex multi-stage process". Turgoose admitted himself he couldn't replicate it.

                  But yet, we are to believe Albert, Robbie and now John White between them mastered this hoax.
                  So you do admit it was a hoax then?

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                  • Iconoclast
                    Commissioner
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 4024

                    #10884
                    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

                    So you do admit it was a hoax then?
                    As much as I’d admit that Americans get irony and Germans have a sense of humour.
                    Iconoclast
                    Materials: HistoryvsMaybrick – Dropbox

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                    • John Wheat
                      Assistant Commissioner
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3345

                      #10885
                      Originally posted by Iconoclast View Post

                      As much as I’d admit that Americans get irony and Germans have a sense of humour.
                      National generalisations aside. Why are you answering a question asked to another poster?

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                      • erobitha
                        Chief Inspector
                        • Apr 2019
                        • 1730

                        #10886
                        Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

                        So you do admit it was a hoax then?
                        No John, I'm playing along with you.

                        Thanks for dropping by.
                        Author of 'Jack the Ripper: Threads' out now on Amazon > UK | USA | CA | AUS
                        JayHartley.com

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                        • erobitha
                          Chief Inspector
                          • Apr 2019
                          • 1730

                          #10887
                          Originally posted by The Baron View Post




                          And he wonders why he was labeled a diary defender

                          A diary defender.. on steroids



                          The Baron
                          I don't wonder anything Barry.

                          Thanks for joining in.
                          Author of 'Jack the Ripper: Threads' out now on Amazon > UK | USA | CA | AUS
                          JayHartley.com

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                          • erobitha
                            Chief Inspector
                            • Apr 2019
                            • 1730

                            #10888
                            Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

                            I did try tellin him.
                            Well, with your informative insight and in-depth research, how can anyone else compete?
                            Author of 'Jack the Ripper: Threads' out now on Amazon > UK | USA | CA | AUS
                            JayHartley.com

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                            • John Wheat
                              Assistant Commissioner
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 3345

                              #10889
                              Originally posted by erobitha View Post

                              No John, I'm playing along with you.

                              Thanks for dropping by.
                              But you admitted it was a hoax to a different poster.

                              And again you don't need to keep thanking me. I've already noted your gratitude.

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                              • erobitha
                                Chief Inspector
                                • Apr 2019
                                • 1730

                                #10890
                                Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

                                But you admitted it was a hoax to a different poster.

                                And again you don't need to keep thanking me. I've already noted your gratitude.
                                You clearly need something from me, John, but all I have to offer is my gratitude for your time and energy. You add so much value.
                                Author of 'Jack the Ripper: Threads' out now on Amazon > UK | USA | CA | AUS
                                JayHartley.com

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