One Incontrovertible, Unequivocal, Undeniable Fact Which Refutes the Diary

[caz]

You didn't go on that walk, did you, Victoria?

And neither did Steve.

Love,

Caz
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[caz]

Oh my, a Diary ignoramus posting from Florida. Haven't had one around these parts for awhile.

There's another one due in - ooh - two weeks to be exact.

It can't be long now...

Love,

Caz
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[Victoria]

You didn't go on that walk, did you, Victoria?

And neither did Steve.

Love,

Caz
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What strange presumptions you make Caz ..

I most certainly did go on that walk, as Steve did also,
though some years back.

Donald wore a white linen jacket, carried his shabby plastic stool
to stand on ..and his wheelie shopping bag full of books to sell ..
Autographed personally of course ..

I have photographs ..

Maybe you should go, and then you will see what I said was correct.

[caz]

I did Don's walk a few years back, when a group of us went to see From Hell.

I don't recall him taking us to a victim's dwelling place, as it was in JtR's time.

In any case, what Steve describes in the book is just laughable. And not just Don's walk - which is not silly at all.

Did Don say whether or not he believed the Goulston St graffito was the ripper's work? I do remember what his opinion was on that.

Love,

Caz
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[Rubyretro]

[/I]I don't recall him taking us to a victim's dwelling place, as it was in JtR's time.

My 'memory recall' is getting shorter too..

[Victoria]

I did Don's walk a few years back, when a group of us went to see From Hell.

I don't recall him taking us to a victim's dwelling place, as it was in JtR's time.

In any case, what Steve describes in the book is just laughable. And not just Don's walk - which is not silly at all.

Did Don say whether or not he believed the Goulston St graffito was the ripper's work? I do remember what his opinion was on that.

Love,

Caz
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Yes for whatever reasons he refers a bit to the movie 'From Hell' ..
Mainly when describing what the prostitutes were really like .. age etc,
as opposed to movie versions.

Nothing is really 'as it was in jtr time', as that would mean furniture etc
all left untouched.
He really was referring to an actual Victorian Building that is virtually
Unchanged from those days .. meaning the shell of it, and he did point out
where the doorway was, I recall now him saying it is tenanted by people.

It made me wonder if those people knew of it's history ...

[Victoria]

Goulston Street graffiti ..

Not the work of Jack The Ripper, was his opinion.

[Rubyretro]

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I recall now him saying it is tenanted by people.

It made me wonder if those people knew of it's history ...

[/QUOTE]

The tenants might of spotted the groups of tourists under their windows and wondered 'why' ?

[Scott Nelson]

It's a parking garage Vicky.

[caz]

Goulston Street graffiti ..

Not the work of Jack The Ripper, was his opinion.

I wonder what changed Don's mind then, since the walk I was on.

Love,

Caz
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[Victoria]

You may be right .. or I may stand corrected Caz, but ..

I was not trying to remember every detail,
to be ready for ' the test' ..
to prove that I did go on the walk ..
I am not really interested in JTR....
take note of my signature !!

I mainly went because of
my time here, and the bits I had remembered of the diary
to help Steve.
But I do recall the graffitti bit .. and I am not a betting person, but
I still feel sure that is what I heard.

But so what ..
unimportant in the scheme of things ..
As we have taken note of Johns post ..

I definitely went on the walk ..
As did Steve .. though some years back

[Soothsayer]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Robert Anderson
Oh my, a Diary ignoramus posting from Florida. Haven't had one around these parts for awhile.

There's another one due in - ooh - two weeks to be exact.

Love,

Caz
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I reckon that Jack wrote the diary in 1887, two years after the murders, and he did it to avenge Detective Constable Aberdeen, the famous policeman-detective who solved the case, probably 'cos he arrested him for having non-Victorian writing when they lived together in Whitechapel as medical students.

Will that do?

[caz]

But so what ..
unimportant in the scheme of things ..

All of this is hugely unimportant in the scheme of things, as you say - the 'diary' especially. Some of us have never thought otherwise, while others have suffered greatly or let themselves and others down by allowing themselves to become obsessed, bitter or twisted.

Steve doesn't see it as unimportant though, does he? In his book he endows his diary-forging, death-faking characters with the power between them to cause 'Pandemonium'.

Only in Steve's world, eh?

Love,

Caz
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[caz]

I reckon that Jack wrote the diary in 1887, two years after the murders, and he did it to avenge Detective Constable Aberdeen, the famous policeman-detective who solved the case, probably 'cos he arrested him for having non-Victorian writing when they lived together in Whitechapel as medical students.

Will that do?

Rather well, Soothy.

Love,

Caz
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[Casebook Wiki Editor]

I just went on Donald Rumbelows' Jack The Ripper walk last
Sunday evening.
It was very interesting, he is very knowledgeable on the case, being
A historian and is a great speaker.
The diary was dismissed along with Maybrick, and many other minor
suspects, as not worth talking about .. just as a minor note of interest
to add to the content of the tour.

One has to realize that almost all of the (living) major Ripperologists know very little about the ins and outs of the every winding Diary story. NONE of them know squat about the Watch.

It is not a knock against Don, nor any of the other learned league of Ripper scholars. They've never cared about it nor devoted their time to it. It is outside their field of interest. That is their prerogative and considering how psychotic the "debate" on these boards has been in the not so distant past, I can't blame them. They're just not "expert witnesses" with respect to things Maybrick.