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Originally posted by David Orsam View PostThis could account for a different direction in the slope of such handwriting.
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Originally posted by Scott Nelson View PostIs it safe to suggest that Anne Graham is a left-handed writer?
The Diary writing appears to be written by a right-handed person.
I'll repost below if it makes it easier:
This is from "Disguised Handwriting" by John J. Harris in the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, Volume 43, Issue 5, 1953:
"A few persons are ambidextrous and, therefore, have quite a talent for disguising handwriting."
This is from "Scientific Examination of Questioned Documents", Second Edition by Jan Seaman Kelly Brian S. Lindblom (eds), 2006:
"Disguise can be accomplished by writing with the hand opposite to that which is habitually used. This can be a very effective disguise as long as standards of wrong-handed writing are not available. Opposite-hand writing can sometimes be inferred from its relatively low degree of writing skill. Once a suspect is located, steps should be taken to obtain writings executed with both hands wherever possible. A small group of people can write with the same ease and skill using either hand. These ambidextrous writers have practiced and developed their writing to such a degree that writings produced by left and right hands do not contain features associated with disguise. In spite of a developed skill to write with both hands, writing done with the right hand differs in many ways from writing done with the left."
So if we are comparing the Diary handwriting with the handwriting of any individual we need to consider whether they might have attempted to disguise their handwriting by using their "other" hand. This could account for a different direction in the slope of such handwriting.
I understand that some 1% of the population is ambidextrous.
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Originally posted by peg&pie View PostThanks for these comparisons. It is intriguing, Anne's handwriting does bear a suspicious similarity to the diary. Almost what it might look like after an attempt to disguise her style slightly.
The question of course is, how likely is this so by chance alone, and how many others could be said to bear such a resemblance. True investigation would need dozens if not hundreds of samples from everyone associated with the diary. And, a clear indicator that Anne's is only one to consistently display troubling similarities.
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Hi Scott. I was sitting here wondering the same thing. Look again at post #54. I'm not worried about the loops, etc. They can be changed. Just look at the overall appearance of the writing, it's "style."
ALL of Anne's vertical downstrokes...L, I, T, K, B, etc...are slanted downward radically to the right, making the whole page look as if it is leaning backwards in a strong headwind:
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I don't know; I'm asking. Even if a person altered how they formed individual loops, etc., wouldn't they retain SOME of this tendency to slant?
Like you, I can see no similar slant in the Maybrick Diary. Most of it is very upright and vertical, though at times the penman actually slants his/her handwriting slightly in the other direction: / / / /.
It could be a left-hand vs. right-hand thing, possibly. Maybe even probably.
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Originally posted by rjpalmer View PostWell, looking at Anne Graham's handwriting objectively, the first thing I notice is that she has one hell of a dramatic slant to the left. Why is she writing at such an extreme angle?
The Diary writing appears to be written by a right-handed person.
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Originally posted by David Orsam View PostHere's another example for you all to consider. It's an extract from the famous "head nor tale off" letter...
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Thanks for these comparisons. It is intriguing, Anne's handwriting does bear a suspicious similarity to the diary. Almost what it might look like after an attempt to disguise her style slightly.
The question of course is, how likely is this so by chance alone, and how many others could be said to bear such a resemblance. True investigation would need dozens if not hundreds of samples from everyone associated with the diary. And, a clear indicator that Anne's is only one to consistently display troubling similarities.
Trouble is, a competent and convincing argument can be made in all facets of ripperology with the dearth of reliable evidence, as we all know.
What we do know is that both Anne and Mike are liars, changing their stories to suit the ongoing investigations at the time.
That such a document could be unveiled by such unreliable characters is beyond bad luck and believability.
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Originally posted by David Orsam View PostHere's another example for you all to consider. It's an extract from the famous "head nor tale off" letter...
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The ‘y’ in royal compared with the one at the end of ‘neatly’ is also a contrast. (In the first letter)
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Originally posted by Sam Flynn View PostThere's a perhaps clearer example of the capital "M" on p49.
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Well, looking at Anne Graham's handwriting objectively, the first thing I notice is that she has one hell of a dramatic slant to the left. Why is she writing at such an extreme angle? It's like the sheet of paper is on a slow moving treadmill. By the time I was done reading it I felt like I was about to fall out of the left side my chair.
It's also a bit unfortunate that her letter uses ruled paper, and the Maybrick Diary doesn't.
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Originally posted by David Orsam View PostAnne has a fairly unusual way of writing the "M" in "Mike".
To me, it looks like a little "n" next to a very large "n"
The Diary author does something similar when writing the name "Michael" on pages 2 and 10 of the Diary.
Whilst on p49 I note that the word "lucky" appears, and twice on p50, spelt correctly each time. However, closing the first block of text on p8, we appear to have "I feel luckey".
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My handwriting is reasonably neat. Women often say ‘dont you have neat writing for a man!’ Id say that my handwriting is quite average so its quite surprising to see the level of variation and inconsistancy in Anne’s writing and also ‘Jack’s.’
External infuences have an effect of course but you wouldn’t have thought that this would have been the case within the same sentence or small group of sentences.
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