25 YEARS OF THE DIARY OF JACK THE RIPPER: THE TRUE FACTS by Robert Smith

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  • Henry Flower
    Inactive
    • Nov 2010
    • 1131

    #1606
    Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
    How come?
    With great difficulty.

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    • DirectorDave
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      • Sep 2009
      • 355

      #1607
      Never let it be said that music hall comedy is dead.

      I think you've just won the internet with that one Henry.
      Last edited by DirectorDave; 09-30-2017, 01:21 AM.

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      • Sam Flynn
        Casebook Supporter
        • Feb 2008
        • 13333

        #1608
        Originally posted by DirectorDave View Post
        Never let it be said that music hall comedy is dead.

        I think you've just won the internet with that one Henry.
        Do I get second prize for setting it up for the punchline?
        Kind regards, Sam Flynn

        "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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        • DirectorDave
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          • Sep 2009
          • 355

          #1609
          Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
          Do I get second prize for setting it up for the punchline?
          Yes Samwise you get about as much credit as Ernie did for teeing up Eric.

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          • Sam Flynn
            Casebook Supporter
            • Feb 2008
            • 13333

            #1610
            Originally posted by DirectorDave View Post
            Yes Samwise you get about as much credit as Ernie did for teeing up Eric.
            Praise indeed. Ta!
            Kind regards, Sam Flynn

            "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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            • Henry Flower
              Inactive
              • Nov 2010
              • 1131

              #1611
              Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
              Praise indeed. Ta!
              Flynn and Flower. This definitely has legs. This year Casebook, next year Winter Gardens Ballroom Torquay.

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              • rjpalmer
                Commissioner
                • Mar 2008
                • 4357

                #1612
                --from the classified ads, Liverpool Mercury, Tuesday, 7 August, 1888 page 1.

                LOST, at Aigburth, a Young Fox-terrer DOG, marked on head and tail. Anyone will be rewarded on restoring the same to Battlecrease, 6 Riversdale-road, Aigburth.

                There you have it! Maybrick was too busy looking for his terrier to have killed Martha Tabram.

                two months later:

                Lost or Strayed, from Battlecrease, Riversdale-road, Algburth, a Young Irish Terrier PUPPY. A suitable reward paid to anyone returning same.

                --Liverpool Mercury, Saturday 13 October 1888, page one,

                Aww, poor Maybrick, his puppy ran off, too! Or did the Fox terrier turn Irish? Maybe Aaron Kosminski could have taught him something about owning a leash. But I suppose the real reason is that Florie was poisoning the pooch. She was more into cats, if I recall.

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                • Robert
                  Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 5163

                  #1613
                  The poor dog had been placed in an impossible position. Should he side with Maybrick, or with Barnaby and Burgho?

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                  • rjpalmer
                    Commissioner
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 4357

                    #1614
                    Yes, and if I recall there is an appropriate line in the Diary.

                    "Damn it damn it damn it I lost another puppy, the bitch..."

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                    • Henry Flower
                      Inactive
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1131

                      #1615
                      Originally posted by rjpalmer View Post
                      Yes, and if I recall there is an appropriate line in the Diary.

                      "Damn it damn it damn it I lost another puppy, the bitch..."

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                      • Herlock Sholmes
                        Commissioner
                        • May 2017
                        • 22322

                        #1616
                        Barrett's confession

                        After just reading Mike Barrett's confession a question occurred to me which may have already been addressed.
                        He tells of how he obtained the diary and the ink and how he and Ann carried out the forgery but he doesn't mention any kind of ageing process. Simply applying Victorian ink to a Victorian document would surely have been immediately exposed by scientific tests. An ageing process must surely have been carried out.
                        He seems very forthcoming with details about the purchase of the ink and the book and the writing process but did he ever give any explaination of how he 'aged' the diary so that the ink tests/ion migration tests wouldn't have immediately shown that the ink was applied to the paper something like a year previously?
                        Regards

                        Herlock Sholmes

                        ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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                        • Sam Flynn
                          Casebook Supporter
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 13333

                          #1617
                          Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
                          After just reading Mike Barrett's confession a question occurred to me which may have already been addressed.
                          He tells of how he obtained the diary and the ink and how he and Ann carried out the forgery but he doesn't mention any kind of ageing process. Simply applying Victorian ink to a Victorian document would surely have been immediately exposed by scientific tests.
                          That didn't happen with the Hitler Diaries, Herlock, so why should it have been a concern here?

                          Besides, I find the scientific tests that were carried out on the ink to be less than convincing. And I'm not the only one who thinks that.
                          Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                          "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                          • Herlock Sholmes
                            Commissioner
                            • May 2017
                            • 22322

                            #1618
                            I just thought that as he was so keen to show that he was the forger a bit of information about the ageing process and how he had achieved it might have helped his cause. Plus I'd have thought that people would have been interested to know how he did it?
                            Regards

                            Herlock Sholmes

                            ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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                            • Sam Flynn
                              Casebook Supporter
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 13333

                              #1619
                              Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
                              I just thought that as he was so keen to show that he was the forger a bit of information about the ageing process and how he had achieved it might have helped his cause. Plus I'd have thought that people would have been interested to know how he did it?
                              Assuming it was artificially aged, of course. I wouldn't be so sure that it was.
                              Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                              "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                              • Herlock Sholmes
                                Commissioner
                                • May 2017
                                • 22322

                                #1620
                                Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
                                Assuming it was artificially aged, of course. I wouldn't be so sure that it was.
                                I'm certainly no expert on the subject of forgery Sam but surely it's not just a case of slapping Victorian ink onto Victorian paper? Whatever our various opinions are on the scientific tests I would have thought that it would have been immediately apparent if the ink had been applied within a year or so of those tests without any attempt at ageing?
                                Regards

                                Herlock Sholmes

                                ”I think that Herlock is a genius.” Trevor Marriott

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