So Cross the Ripper got involved in the investigation. Why did he stop?

[Simon Wood]

Hi Patrick S,

Nicely done. Short and sweet.

CASE CLOSED.

Regards,

Simon

[Columbo]

All of the insults, and condescending lectures in the world can't give credence to this nonsense. It's only the sheer absurdity of it all that keeps us coming back, arguing, going blue in the face. One of "Fisherman's" fanboys (who contributes nothing to these board, thus he doesn't deserve to be named, much less engaged) keeps accusing those who disagree of being "jealous", as if we are all as juvenile as he is.

Yep, I guess I'm the fanboy.

Has it ever occurred to all the people who create these incredibly long, sometimes concise, but normally snotty and rude posts is that none of you answer the question posted by the thread?

It always winds up being a debate of the whole theory, instead of providing the bits of information that the creator of the thread desired.

The only time that didn't happen is when I asked about Lechemeres wife and I think that was because it was so precise a question that only a few could answer.

So, yeah I've seen a lot of jealousy and animosity against not only this theory but the man who came up with it. Also against people like myself who are basically neutral on the whole JTR thing to begin with, but we stupidly respond back to the childish posts and sink to levels we wouldn't do if we were meeting in person.

Can any of the long winded dissenters cite any post where they just answered the question of this post without being rude and obnoxious?

I doubt it.

Columbo

[Columbo]

Nicely done. Short and sweet.

CASE CLOSED.

Regards,

Simon

It certainly wasn't short, and it doesn't close anything. Just more long winded blathering that has been repeated over and over.

Columbo

[Patrick S]

It certainly wasn't short, and it doesn't close anything. Just more long winded blathering that has been repeated over and over.

Columbo

Some may have found it short (and sweet). Other likely found it long "winded blathering". How you perceive the written word is doubtlessly determined by your attention span, reading comprehension skills, and your overall ability to process information. Simon found it short. You did not find it short.....ā chacun son proper.

[Harry D]

It certainly wasn't short, and it doesn't close anything. Just more long winded blathering that has been repeated over and over.

Columbo

You seem awfully tetchy when it comes to defending the Lechmere theory for someone who's only been here a month. You sure you don't have a dog in this fight?

[Patrick S]

You seem awfully tetchy when it comes to defending the Lechmere theory for someone who's only been here a month. You sure you don't have a dog in this fight?

Your seem rather "jealous", Harry. Proceed with caution here. Mr. Eloquence has warned us not to "mess" with him, lest we face a verbal assault not seen since Steve Martin's tirade at the rental car counter in "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles".

[Simon Wood]

Hi Patrick S,

You have ably demonstrated that the horse Christer has been flogging is now dead.

Regards,

Simon

[Errata]

Your seem rather "jealous", Harry. Proceed with caution here. Mr. Eloquence has warned us not to "mess" with him, lest we face a verbal assault not seen since Steve Martin's tirade at the rental car counter in "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles".

I have no dog in this fight, on the other hand, anyone who references that scene in Planes Trains and Automobiles is clearly a winner.

[Columbo]

You seem awfully tetchy when it comes to defending the Lechmere theory for someone who's only been here a month. You sure you don't have a dog in this fight?

Tetchy, I like that.

None at all. I don't agree with everything Fisherman has said and except for a few instances that I was drawn into where it got nasty, I usually stay out of the usual battle of wits that normally ends these threads.

I was just wanting more information on this theory after seeing the "evil" documentary about Lechmere\Cross. But it's like pulling teeth because every time anyone asks a question where Fisherman responded the whole community goes up in arms and begins bringing up arguments that have no bearing on the thread and the answers get lost in a sea of snide remarks and overlong posts that aren't really fun to read.

And to top it off only a few of you have been polite enough to try to answer questions while the rest try to show who has the biggest walnuts on the block. There are other newcomers who shouldn't have to be drawn into a p**sing contest.

Debate is a wonderful thing but every thread does not require re-hashing or carrying over an argument from a previous thread.

I want to say you've been pretty polite to me and except for a bit of back and forth I've always enjoyed the info you provided as well as others who have given me a hard time but I'm a big guy I can take it.

Columbo

[Pcdunn]

I liked Patrick's summary, and agree with it.

As for why Lechmere "the Killer" didn't help out the police again-- he was far too brilliant (despite being "a coarse carman" per one of the police observers) to chance it?
Or he was innocent.

[Columbo]

Your seem rather "jealous", Harry. Proceed with caution here. Mr. Eloquence has warned us not to "mess" with him, lest we face a verbal assault not seen since Steve Martin's tirade at the rental car counter in "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles".

I find it interesting that you didn't answer my question. you went right on the attack like everyone expected.

Too bad, you seem like a smart guy but the anger is just overwhelming in you.

Columbo

[Pcdunn]

I can't help thinking that being a ripperologist is a good deal like being a religious scholar, when it comes to debating what the texts "mean" and how we should interpret them.

The lost documents haven't helped at all-- nor the occasional hoaxed journal or photograph.

All these arguments are just differences of interpretation, Columbo. (I hear they're less combative at JTR Forums.)

[Patrick S]

I find it interesting that you didn't answer my question. you went right on the attack like everyone expected.

Too bad, you seem like a smart guy but the anger is just overwhelming in you.

Columbo

Quite right. The anger is overwhelming.

I'm not aware of a question, at least not one that didn't seem rhetorical or unserious. Do you honestly wish me to "cite" a post that answered a question without being "snotty"? Is that the question? Okay. Here is the answer: There are many.

If you become educated enough in the subject matter to contribute, I'll be happy to politely discuss anything at all. As it stands now, your posts amount to you agreeing with someone (usually "Fisherman"), accusing "dissenters" of being "jealous" and "snotty", and wondering when we can "discuss the other murders".

It's ironic that you take such issue with "snotty" remarks. Even as I realize that your trotting out old standards like "using your mom's computer while the babysitter's not looking" and spouting phrases like "you little bitch" constitute the standard of prose to which we should all aspire. As well, you do seem unable to grasp the concept of "response in kind". "Fisherman" is nothing if not "snotty" in his responses. He never fails to insult, condescend, and taunt. Alas, he does it with some flourish, some literacy, some style. In short, "little bitch" and "mommy's not home" are not part of his repertoire. Simply put, save the faux outrage. Most of us aren't angry. Familiarize yourself with the concept of the 'happy warrior'. Hint: He's not in the Marvel Universe.

Lastly, these threads are now and have been living things. They zig and zag, they detour, they devolve. They are discussions. Often they are quite productive and if we didn't enjoy them, we wouldn't post (alas, you post that you're NOT enjoying them?). We begin new threads, deal with it's topic to some extent, before continuing the overall "Lechmere" discussion on whatever thread is getting the most action at a given time. That's how it works. You don't understand that, clearly. And that's fine. Just stop complaining about it. I don't know what how things go on the WWE Boards your used to. But, this is how thing go here. Also, if the length of posts (particularly mine) bother you there is a solution: STOP READING. It is a simple procedure, one I'm sure that you often employ. And should you read an ENTIRE lengthy post, there's no need to reply, "WHY IS IT SO LONG?????" Such comments aren't useful and do you no favors.

Other than all this, you've been a delight.

[Patrick S]

I can't help thinking that being a ripperologist is a good deal like being a religious scholar, when it comes to debating what the texts "mean" and how we should interpret them.

The lost documents haven't helped at all-- nor the occasional hoaxed journal or photograph.

All these arguments are just differences of interpretation, Columbo. (I hear they're less combative at JTR Forums.)

Good comparison, Pat.

Thanks for the IM, by the way. I've compiled my reading list and have begun.

[Pierre]

[QUOTE=Fisherman;379439]

If you had made the effort to see who says he was found over the body, you would have found that itīs not me and not Edward.

But why make the effort?

Hi Fisherman,

What source(s) exactly are you using for "was found over the body"?

Regards, Pierre