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  • Hello and welcome Kunochan,

    If you are not familiar with the person who calls himself Ed Stow I should point out that he is actually a good researcher and is the person responsible for most of the things we know about Charles allen Lechmere.

    The problem lies with his bias when it comes to forming opinions about Lechmere. His partner is a Lechmere descendant and there is a vested interest there that is usually not declared. The parts of his videos that stick to facts or are about non-Lechmere related subject matter can be worthwhile.

    You just have to keep in mind what you have already noticed, a heavy and often unreasonable bias with any thing Lechmere.
    dustymiller
    aka drstrange

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    • Originally posted by drstrange169 View Post
      If you are not familiar with the person who calls himself Ed Stow I should point out that he is actually a good researcher and is the person responsible for most of the things we know about Charles allen Lechmere.
      Hi! Yes, I saw a previous poster mention that Stow found a lot of good information about Cross/Lechmere, which is of course commendable. And it seems like, if you want to make money in Ripperology, you have to pick a pet theory and defend it with your life. Hence my plan to push my theory that all five canonical deaths were actually suicides. /jk

      I notice you said "person who calls himself Ed Stow." Is that not his real name?
      Kunochan
      Too Soon: An Irreverent Jack the Ripper Blog

      "The Jack the Ripper murders were not committed by Jack the Ripper, but by another gentleman of the same name."

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      • Originally posted by TopHat View Post
        People who knew him/of him would have known him as Charles Lechmere, who worked at Pickford's.
        You start by speculation. Considering the 1876 accident, it is likely he was known as Cross by his coworkers and employers at Pickfords.

        Originally posted by TopHat View Post
        And how many people would have known his address, not many I'd say; same with his middle name.
        His family and friends would have known his home address. So would his neighbors and employers. Using the name Cross if they knew him as Lechmere would result in more, not less attention. Giving his home address also meant any journalist who wanted to interview Cross would been able to find him.

        And while Charles Cross had to give his home address to the coroner, he had no legal obligation to give it publicly. There are many period examples of witnesses asking the court to not publicly state their addresses. If he wanted anonymity, why didn't Charles Cross ask for that?

        You are probably correct that few people knew his middle name was Allen, but you miss the point. There were a lot more people named Charles Cross than there were people named Charles Allen Cross. A man who wanted anonymity would have been a fool to give his middle name.​

        Originally posted by TopHat View Post
        By providing the name Cross he ruled out all those who purely knew him as Charles Lechmere (or Charles Lechmere who worked at Pickford's).
        ​​​​​​​If he was known as Lechmere, using Cross might have deflected attention from acquaintances. It would do nothing to help him avoid police or the press. And it would attract, not deflect, attention from his family, friends, neighbors or employers.
        "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

        "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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        • Originally posted by Kunochan View Post

          Hi! Yes, I saw a previous poster mention that Stow found a lot of good information about Cross/Lechmere, which is of course commendable. And it seems like, if you want to make money in Ripperology, you have to pick a pet theory and defend it with your life. Hence my plan to push my theory that all five canonical deaths were actually suicides. /jk

          I notice you said "person who calls himself Ed Stow." Is that not his real name?
          His real name is BNP politician Eddy Butler. His girlriend's surname is Clapp, but she often goes by Lechmere. Based on their "reasoning", that's proof that they are both serial killers.

          "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

          "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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          • Originally posted by Fiver View Post
            His real name is BNP politician Eddy Butler.... Based on their "reasoning", that's proof that they are both serial killers.
            Oh my god that's hilarious.
            Kunochan
            Too Soon: An Irreverent Jack the Ripper Blog

            "The Jack the Ripper murders were not committed by Jack the Ripper, but by another gentleman of the same name."

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            • Originally posted by Fiver View Post

              His real name is BNP politician Eddy Butler.

              Oh good lord he's a Fascist. I did not see that coming.
              Kunochan
              Too Soon: An Irreverent Jack the Ripper Blog

              "The Jack the Ripper murders were not committed by Jack the Ripper, but by another gentleman of the same name."

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              • Originally posted by Kunochan View Post

                Oh good lord he's a Fascist. I did not see that coming.
                Fictional serial killers are bold, clever, witty, powerful, dangerous, and in control - all the things fascists like to pretend they are. So it doesn't surprise me that a fascist would take pleasure in his girlfriend being related to a serial killer.
                "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

                "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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