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  • Originally posted by TopHat View Post

    ​Harold Shipman often "discovered the body". Shipman also killed on his way to work, during work, after work, and on weekends.
    It is hard to imagine a more inaccurate description of Shipman's crimes than the one you just gave. Shipman was a doctor who gave lethal overdoses to his patients. None were killed on his way to work. None were killed on his way home from work. None were found by him on his way to work.
    "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

    "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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    • Originally posted by TopHat View Post

      As for Cross, he is absolutely a suspect. In actual fact he is THE suspect, the prime suspect, and nobody else in contention even comes close to him.

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      I strongly suggest you read Herlock's thread on rating the suspects. It will show you that there are many suspects far more likely than Cross.

      * There is no physical evidence against Cross.
      * There is no eyewitness evidence against Cross.
      * There is no evidence of violence or criminal behavior by Cross.
      * Cross had no knowledge of anatomy.
      * The idea of hiding bloodstained clothing and trophy organs in a house full of small children is laughable.
      * The timing of the Chapman, Stride, and Eddowes murders make it wildly unlikely that Cross killed them.
      * Cross lived for over three decades after the murders ended.
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      "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

      "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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      • Originally posted by TopHat View Post
        One of the biggest issues for Cross is that if it wasn't him, how did the ripper do his work and escape unseen with all the timings involved for witnesses Cross and Paul and for multiple policemen walking their beats in very close proximity? Instead of looking at it as timings for the guilty Cross, look at it as if it wasn't Cross, and Cross only had maybe 15 minutes to carry out the deed when he is blamed - then how did another Jack do it?
        It's not an issue at all.

        "It was quite possible for anybody to have escaped through Brady Street into Whitechapel road, or through a passage into Queen's buildings.​" - PC Neil, Daily News
        3rd September 1888​.

        We should also note that Charles Cross and Robert Paul "escaped" Bucks-row unseen and unheard by anyone else - not the police, not the people that lived or worked nearby. If Cross and Paul hadn't chosen to seek out and talk to PC Mizen, no one else would have known they were ever there.
        "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

        "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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        • Originally posted by TopHat View Post
          Also of major concern is that Cross "found" a body with the wounds not on show. Why would the ripper escape without a trace and without his work displayed? The scenario that makes the most sense is that the ripper was disturbed, he did what he could with the dead victim to hide the wounds, and then he stepped into the middle of the road to meet the oncoming disturbance: Paul.
          The idea that Nichol's wounds were hidden by her killer is a myth, one that is directly contradicted by the evidence.

          "Her clothes were raised almost up to her stomach." - Robert Paul, The Times, 18 Septemb​er, 1888.

          Even if Robert Paul had been crass enough to look up the skirt of a woman he thought had been outraged, there probably wasn't enough light to see the torso wounds.

          "While he was pulling the clothes down he touched the breast, and then fancied he felt a slight movement.​" - Robert Paul, The Times, 18 Septemb​er, 1888.

          So the torso wounds were hidden by Robert Paul, while the neck wounds were never hidden by anyone.
          "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

          "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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