Lechmere Validity 2.0

[MrBarnett]

Booth’s 1887 survey shows 18, James Street as empty, but records a ginger beer shop and manufactory at no. 2.

[MrBarnett]

yes you are right in terms of the address change for Lechmere, but Hostler was still living at the same house throughout.

The reason why I believe the clue to be significant is based on my assumption (not evidence obviously) that whomever the ripper was, they would have committed crimes before Nichols.
It’s statistically more likely that the killer didn’t go quickly from being a normal guy to becoming a serial killer, but rather that there was a gradual progression over time.

I just find the coincidence interesting; that Lechmere had lived next to Hostler right up until Lechmere moved a few weeks before the killing started.

they were long term neighbours right up until Lechmere moved shortly before the killings began. So technically you are right in that when Nichols was killed, Lechmere didn’t live next door to Hostler, but he had done so for many years before.


Please may I ask which murder that sketch represents? How fascinating that there’s a Ginger Beer cart right by that lamppost where the body was found.

is that an authentic newspaper sketch from the time? If so, how intriguing would it be if there was a Ginger Beer maker/seller there at the time.
On that basis, it’s also fascinating that interns of serial killers, many choose to get involved with the cases and try to be present, ergo, the kind of killer who comes forward to help with the search party for a body he already knows has been buried.

Could be the ripper in that sketch right there! Haha

It is a genuine press sketch of Castle Alley where Alice McKenzie was killed (not born!).

What is your source for saying that Hostler was still at the address in 1888?

[The Rookie Detective]

Hostler was Lechmere’s neighbour in James Street in 1881, wasn’t he? By the time of the Nichols murder they had both moved elsewhere. So the clue you are referring to might be a reference to the occupation of one of Lechmere’s neighbours from as long as 7 years previously?

yes you are right in terms of the address change for Lechmere, but Hostler was still living at the same house throughout.

The reason why I believe the clue to be significant is based on my assumption (not evidence obviously) that whomever the ripper was, they would have committed crimes before Nichols.
It’s statistically more likely that the killer didn’t go quickly from being a normal guy to becoming a serial killer, but rather that there was a gradual progression over time.

I just find the coincidence interesting; that Lechmere had lived next to Hostler right up until Lechmere moved a few weeks before the killing started.

they were long term neighbours right up until Lechmere moved shortly before the killings began. So technically you are right in that when Nichols was killed, Lechmere didn’t live next door to Hostler, but he had done so for many years before.


Please may I ask which murder that sketch represents? How fascinating that there’s a Ginger Beer cart right by that lamppost where the body was found.

is that an authentic newspaper sketch from the time? If so, how intriguing would it be if there was a Ginger Beer maker/seller there at the time.
On that basis, it’s also fascinating that interns of serial killers, many choose to get involved with the cases and try to be present, ergo, the kind of killer who comes forward to help with the search party for a body he already knows has been buried.

Could be the ripper in that sketch right there! Haha

[MrBarnett]

No, it relates to the literal structuring of the letters within the written words themselves.


In summary...

My research on the letter was thus...

I highlighted every word that is either deliberately misspelled or has deliberate irregularities

I then wrote down every single indiviudal letter that is either missing or duplicated

I then discarded the duplicate letters,

I was then left with 6 random letters.

These letters form an anagram of the word CHRIST

The author of the letter is perhaps giving the reader a clue.

The letters C I R S H T are missing

Christ is absent FROM HELL

Religious elements perhaps?

As you can see, it's wafer thin and up for ridicule, hence why i haven't mentioned anything before


The author was either illiterate, suffering form MPD or extremely clever and eager to leave clues


TRD

Hostler was Lechmere’s neighbour in James Street in 1881, wasn’t he? By the time of the Nichols murder they had both moved elsewhere. So the clue you are referring to might be a reference to the occupation of one of Lechmere’s neighbours from as long as 7 years previously?

[caz]

imagine if Paul was never there.

Would Lechmere still have come forward as a witness?

I see no reason why not. The carmen didn't know each other, either by sight or name, so Lechmere had no need to come forward later on account of Paul's presence at the scene. Indeed, it was Lechmere who made sure Paul didn't simply walk on by, but beckoned him over to where Nichols was lying. Totally normal behaviour, for anyone seeing what they thought was a tarpaulin in the street, then realising it was a woman who might need help.

Love,

Caz
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[The Rookie Detective]

Or forget Hostler and look at Lechmere for being the only ever witness/suspect being seen by another witness at any of the murders.

The more I look at Lechmere the more coincidences spring out.

Fisherman, I think you may be on the Right Track Haha


TRD

[The Rookie Detective]

Can I just say that “Inside Bucks Row” is a work of genius, a brilliant fascinating detailed insight and well worth it.


the one interesting aspect that makes Lechmere stand out from every other single witness, it that he remains the only witness to have been seen by another witness at the scene of a murder.

imagine if Paul was never there.

Would Lechmere still have come forward as a witness?


I’ve often wondered if it was in fact Lechmere/Cross or someone impersonating him; not literally of course.

I say this because his next door neighbour was a ginger beer maker called Isaac Hostler who had 2 children who attended the Berner street school and whose brother was convicted at the Opd Bailey of trying to sell dodgy water. Water and alcohol were 2 of the ingredients needed to make Ginger Beer

as outlandish as it sounds, what if the killer was indeed discovered by Paul, but the killer identified himself as Charles Cross. What if George Hostler pretended to be his neighbour Charles and Hostler was the killer?

a potentially ridiculous scenario but at least more likely than blaming the queens grandson.

The Ginger Beer reference is a clue.

subtle and clever but a clue nonetheless


TRD

[barnflatwyngarde]

Thank you!

It's a smashing detailed analysis of the first canonical murder.
You won't regret buying it.

[Azarna]

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Thank you!

[Al Bundy's Eyes]

Please could someone point me in the right direction to buy this book.

https://www.paypal.me/bucksrow

[Azarna]

it was meant to br out 31st August, but some new potentially important information came to me the in july.
hope to have the updated version out by end of year.

physical copy still in pipeline.
any who have bought the older edition get the update free anyway.

steve

Please could someone point me in the right direction to buy this book.

[Al Bundy's Eyes]

I have to say thr hard copy will be less than half the book the ebook is.
Map links wont work obviously, nor will the numerous refetences to external references. nor of course can it be updated for free.
I fully understand people like a hard copy, buy times are changing, slowly but they are.
Anyway the hardcopy will come with a free copy of the ebook, i continue in my task of attempting to get people to read and embrace ebooks.

Steve

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[Al Bundy's Eyes]

I have to say thr hard copy will be less than half the book the ebook is.
Map links wont work obviously, nor will the numerous refetences to external references. nor of course can it be updated for free.
I fully understand people like a hard copy, buy times are changing, slowly but they are.
Anyway the hardcopy will come with a free copy of the ebook, i continue in my task of attempting to get people to read and embrace ebooks.

Steve

I've stumped up for the e-book. It better be good, or I'm coming round your house...

[Elamarna]

I'll hold out for the hard copy. Call me a traditionalist.

I have to say thr hard copy will be less than half the book the ebook is.
Map links wont work obviously, nor will the numerous refetences to external references. nor of course can it be updated for free.
I fully understand people like a hard copy, buy times are changing, slowly but they are.
Anyway the hardcopy will come with a free copy of the ebook, i continue in my task of attempting to get people to read and embrace ebooks.

Steve

[Al Bundy's Eyes]

it was meant to br out 31st August, but some new potentially important information came to me the in july.
hope to have the updated version out by end of year.

physical copy still in pipeline.
any who have bought the older edition get the update free anyway.

steve

I'll hold out for the hard copy. Call me a traditionalist.