Was Lech known as Cross at Pickfords??

[Stephen Thomas]

The Swedish fox is jumping after sour berries from the outset - even if he could get to them, he would be deprived of his wish, since there was no real goods to get from the outset.

Them Swedish foxes sound well stupid.

[Fisherman]

How deviously clever, Sally! I´m impressed, as ever. I havent heard such cunning remarks since my kids left kindergarten!

How about discussing the subject instead, now that you´ve geared up?

Oh, and goodnight, by the way!

The best,
Fisherman

[DVV]

Definitely interesting, Lechmere - no lip service here. There are, for instance, excellent points about Paul.
But when it comes to Lechmere-the-Ripper I really think the thread has rather weakened his candidacy - thanks to Caz, Abby, Lucky, etc.
All that talk about the name(s), his coming forward, etc, I mean.
Frankly, if I have to compare to Hutch (since I don't believe it was his real name, nor that he was an innocent witness, hence the comparison), Lechmere-Cross really seems out of his depth.
To begin with, I fail to see how nor why the use of "Cross" would have saved the neck of the unlikely "Lechmere-the-Ripper".
It would have been far more simple to stab Paul to death.

[Sally]

The Swedish fox is jumping after sour berries from the outset - even if he could get to them, he would be deprived of his wish, since there was no real goods to get from the outset.

Need I say more...?

Sounds like a very silly fox to me Fish. Who'd waste their time jumping after sour berries?

Waste of time.

[Sally]

Surely not Fish. After all, you know the truth about Hutchinson.

Don't you?

What else needs to be said?

[Fisherman]

Sally:

"Truth will out, as they say."

Uneasy feeling, eh?

Fisherman

[Fisherman]

Stephen Thomas:

"Aesop's fox couldn't jump high enough to get the grapes and comforted himself with the thought that they were probably sour.

Is the Swedish version different?"

Yes - and no. Bravo for finding the source, by the way! The difference inbetween the versions is that the Greek fox jumped in vain to get sweet grapes, and realizing that he would never reach them, he claimed they would be sour anyway.

The Swedish fox is jumping after sour berries from the outset - even if he could get to them, he would be deprived of his wish, since there was no real goods to get from the outset.

Need I say more...?

The best,
Fisherman

[Sally]

Sally
On the lodging house dwellers versus standard householders issue – are you trying to contend that the police were NOT predisposed to look upon residents from common lodging houses with more suspicion than regular householders? Are you of the opinion that the police did NOT put special effort throughout the Ripper investigation into scrutinising and checking out the local lodging houses?

Ed, I'm pretty sure you know that I'm not. Guess you've learned The Twist from your posting pal, eh?

Well done you!

[Sally]

And there, Fisherman, I'm afraid we must disagree.

Oh well.

Truth will out, as they say.

[Fisherman]

Sally:

"You think?"

I know.

Fisherman

[Lechmere]

Sally
On the lodging house dwellers versus standard householders issue – are you trying to contend that the police were NOT predisposed to look upon residents from common lodging houses with more suspicion than regular householders? Are you of the opinion that the police did NOT put special effort throughout the Ripper investigation into scrutinising and checking out the local lodging houses?

Ben
If you wish to discount all memoirs (or even official reports for that matter) that include inaccuracies, are forgetful and at times muddled, then you will be discounting virtually all records relating to this case, from the top down.
Dew’s work – considering it was written 50 years after the murders - is in my opinion remarkably accurate.
If you wish to challenge the Charles Lechmere theory it might be useful to challenge on points of fact or by introducing evidence in support of your propositions rather than just putting forward what you think cudda wudda shudda happen. Just a suggestion. Don’t feel obliged to take it up.

DVV
I am glad you find this tread of interest. Lot’s of interesting observations have been made but I don’t believe any have been unanswered – which ones do you mean?
If Fisherman answers a point before I see it then I don’t always reply as sometimes I get ‘told off’ for being repetitive, and no one likes to be told off. But I will be pleased to give my take on whatever you feel was unanswered – satisfactorily I hope.

[Sally]

Already taken care of, Sally.

Fisherman

You think?

[Stephen Thomas]

"Sour, said the fox about the sorbberries."

Old Swedish proverb, especially for you, Sally

Aesop's fox couldn't jump high enough to get the grapes and comforted himself with the thought that they were probably sour.

Is the Swedish version different?

[Fisherman]

Only some, Moonbegger - only some.

The best,
Fisherman

[moonbegger]

Hello,Hello,Hello,

Are we still stuck on that Landing beach ?

moonbegger .