The Nature of Evidence

[Pierre]

[QUOTE=Elamarna;423241]

Henry
The problem is you have changed a copy; not the original which remains as it was..

The post has a number. 256. Original post. Not changeable.

It does however mean that if the original were lost andd only the copy left we would not know unless the copy were noted and that record kept.

Steve

So we need systems for checking sources.

Pierre

[Henry Flower]

Henry
The problem is you have changed a copy; not the original which remains as it was..

It does however mean that if the original were lost andd only the copy left we would not know unless the copy were noted and that record kept.

Steve

Not so, Steve, it's all changed. All of it. It is a soteriological miracle.

[Pierre]

Pierre, you believe that this post is what you originally wrote. You 'remember' writing it. But this isn't what you originally wrote. I have changed it. You are naturally unaware of this, because the past has been changed, and the post as it now stands has become the past.

You're welcome.

You are amusing, Henry.

[Henry Flower]

You can not change something which has not happened. So your idea is wrong.

Time is just measurement.

Ah no, Pierre. Time is not just measurement. The numbers we adorn it with and describe it with are just measurement, but time is not measurement any more than space or distance are just measurement.

Time is the cold-pressed linseed oil into which I lovingly grind certain very rare pigments called 'Pierre' and 'Henry Flower' and 'David or Sam'.

The colours are beautiful. I'm surprised you cannot see the radiance, Pierre.

[Elamarna]

Pierre, you believe that this post is what you originally wrote. You 'remember' writing it. But this isn't what you originally wrote. I have changed it. You are naturally unaware of this, because the past has been changed, and the post as it now stands has become the past.

You're welcome.

Henry
The problem is you have changed a copy; not the original which remains as it was..

It does however mean that if the original were lost andd only the copy left we would not know unless the copy were noted and that record kept.

Steve

[Pierre]

There are two ways of changing the past. The first is to make the change before the past has happened, in other words get there first, before time does.

The second is the same as the first, but in reverse.

You can not change something which has not happened. So your idea is wrong.

Time is just measurement.

[Henry Flower]

past changed!

[Abby Normal]

It is empirically possible to find a unicorn.
Experiment:

This post is now changed.

Try to change my diapers here.

Bozo

past changed!

[Henry Flower]

It is empirically possible to prove it. Experiment:

This post is now the past.

Try to change my post here.

Pierre

Pierre, you believe that this post is what you originally wrote. You 'remember' writing it. But this isn't what you originally wrote. I have changed it. You are naturally unaware of this, because the past has been changed, and the post as it now stands has become the past.

You're welcome.

[Henry Flower]

There are two ways of changing the past. The first is to make the change before the past has happened, in other words get there first, before time does.

The second is the same as the first, but in reverse.

[Pierre]

It's empirically impossible to prove that assertion, Pierre.

If the past were capable of being changed, and indeed had been changed, you wouldn't know it. And neither would I.

Unless I were the one who had changed it.

But that would be telling.

It is empirically possible to prove it. Experiment:

This post is now the past.

Try to change my post here.

Pierre

[Henry Flower]

Hi Herlock,

No, that is impossible. You can not change the past.

Pierre

It's empirically impossible to prove that assertion, Pierre.

If the past were capable of being changed, and indeed had been changed, you wouldn't know it. And neither would I.

Unless I were the one who had changed it.

But that would be telling.

[Abby Normal]

Shall we come up with a list of individuals associated with the Whitechapel murders who were sought and never found or identified?

Hi Patrick
I don't know if it would even be a list though. The only ones I can think of are the soldier that was with Tabram and blotchy.

[Pierre]

Absolutely. Fairly recently, as an experiment, I put forward a made-up scenario implicating Diemschutz in the murder of Stride.

Combining imagination with wish-fulfilment can make almost anyone into Jack.

Regards
Herlock

Hi Herlock,

No, that is impossible. You can not change the past.

Pierre

[Patrick S]

Absolutely. Fairly recently, as an experiment, I put forward a made-up scenario implicating Diemschutz in the murder of Stride.

Combining imagination with wish-fulfilment can make almost anyone into Jack.

Regards
Herlock

It's easily done. In fact - short of establishing that a "suspect" was out of the country, incarcerated, or dead, one can mint suspicion and direct it at anyone they choose. Then issue challenges to the masses to "prove (them) wrong)" or "get (them) off the hook". Sound familiar?