Lechmere The Psychopath

[Herlock Sholmes]

Just an idea if there were crowds there when he gave statement it may fit with his apparently bigging his role up for the crowd.


Steve

Hi Steve

You could be right there. Give some people an audience....

Regards
Herlock

[Henry Flower]

Dear Henry,

I am, like anyone else, entitled to extensive speculation, since that is what this forum is about.

That activity however is not an activity from which anyone can judge research.

Cheers, Pierre

"Extensive speculation" is a generous description for building towers of unfounded and illogical gobbledegook on absolutely misguided readings that real researchers were able to point out to you in no time at all, and it was always revealing that the speculations you indulged in were favourable to your suspect-led research, and were based not merely on trivial coincidences, but on either schoolboy errors or simply invented facts.

But hey, whatever floats your boat, Pierre.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Maybe Neil took them?

Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette - Saturday 01 September 1888:

Hi Pierre

So many different variations here!

In Lloyds Paul implied that he went on alone to find a police officer. The Sunderland Echo says that one stayed with the body. If that's where they got Paul's name from it possibly points to Paul staying with the body as he would have spent time with Neil.
At the Inquest they both went for a Constable and Mizen confirms two men

Some things just sound genuine though. Like at the Inquest when CL was asked if he'd told Mizen that he was wanted by Constable in Bucks Row. He said 'no because I didn't see a Constable in Bucks Row.

CL sounds the most honest of the 3. Although someone will disagree

Regards
Herlock

[Elamarna]

Cheers Jon.

Do we know for sure that there was a crowd there at that time of the day?

Regards
Herlock

Not sure if we know what time he finished work.
There are reports of crowds being there in the few days following I think.
Not at laptop so can't be specific.

Can anyone supply details?

Just an idea if there were crowds there when he gave statement it may fit with his apparently bigging his role up for the crowd.


Steve

[Herlock Sholmes]

We don`t know.

My guess is that Paul returned home later that day via Bucks Row, and made himself known to a journalist who was amongst the crowd gathered there.

Cheers Jon.

Do we know for sure that there was a crowd there at that time of the day?

Regards
Herlock

[Pierre]

Hello all.

Guys can I ask a question? Someone is bound to know this.

At the beginning of the 'Remarkable Statement,' in Lloyds it says that Paul, a carman, spoke to one of their representatives when he got back from work.

How did they find him?

Mizen didn't take the names. I'm probably missing something here?

Regards
Herlock

Maybe Neil took them?

Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette - Saturday 01 September 1888:

[Jon Guy]

Hello all.

Guys can I ask a question? Someone is bound to know this.

At the beginning of the 'Remarkable Statement,' in Lloyds it says that Paul, a carman, spoke to one of their representatives when he got back from work.

How did they find him?

Mizen didn't take the names. I'm probably missing something here?

Regards
Herlock

We don`t know.

My guess is that Paul returned home later that day via Bucks Row, and made himself known to a journalist who was amongst the crowd gathered there.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Hello all.

Guys can I ask a question? Someone is bound to know this.

At the beginning of the 'Remarkable Statement,' in Lloyds it says that Paul, a carman, spoke to one of their representatives when he got back from work.

How did they find him?

Mizen didn't take the names. I'm probably missing something here?

Regards
Herlock

[Elamarna]

That was not what we were speaking of. And I never said that I have turned the theory into proven facts. It is a theory building on circumstantial evidence and the interpretation of that evidence.

In which case Fish, is it not questionable to post the likes of this:

"Exactly - he retains the exact position he always have had as the best suspect overall and the only truly factually based suspect. Nothing less, nothing more."

The Lechmere/Cross "name issue" post # 271.



Steve

[Pierre]

Nobody here disputes that, Pierre.

Ah well, we'll always have gogmagog to remember you by.

Dear Henry,

I am, like anyone else, entitled to extensive speculation, since that is what this forum is about.

That activity however is not an activity from which anyone can judge research.

Cheers, Pierre

[Henry Flower]

Dear Henry,

I have never presented any evidence.

Pierre

Nobody here disputes that, Pierre.

Ah well, we'll always have gogmagog to remember you by.

[Pierre]

[QUOTE=Elamarna;421515]

Wish I hadn't bother time wasted over so trivial an incident.

Indeed.

But at least you have not bothered to waste 30 years or more on a set of trivial coincidences.

Cheers, Pierre

[Pierre]

If the case is serious to you, why is your evidence always so amusing?

There's an irony there...

Dear Henry,

I have never presented any evidence.

Pierre

[Elamarna]

Steve, as this thread has already long ago descended into an endless cycle of recriminations, arguments over who said what and what they must have meant by it, and whether this or that comment constituted an insult / death threat / invitation to a swingers party - none of which gets us anywhere - let me just briefly join in and add my own petty contribution to the genre: I didn't think that Pierre's comments looked reasonable or unreasonable, it was just that I rather enjoyed his ditching the usual pretense of being a stuffy rank-pulling academic and adopting instead the tactic of gleeful mockery and dry sarcasm that he actually pulled-off with some elan. Hence I asked him whether he had been on the bottle.

I hope that clears up this vitally important point!

No problem Henry.

I took it to be his repeating of 99.99 that caused your comment.
As I suspected what he was talking about I tried to point in right direction.

Wish I hadn't bother time wasted over so trivial an incident.

Steve

[Henry Flower]

I am truly so sorry to hear this.

It is just a game for you, Fisherman.

For me the case is serious.

Pierre

If the case is serious to you, why is your evidence always so amusing?

There's an irony there...