Lechmere was Jack the Ripper

[Jon Guy]

they might if their already sick/weak, their throats cut severely, their midsection ripped open, internal organs taken, and there skirt thrown up on a chilly morning.

not sure the good dr had that experience before and or accounted for it all.

True, but the Doctors could tell Eddowes had been killed recently.

[Trevor Marriott]

True, but the Doctors could tell Eddowes had been killed recently.

The evidence confirmed that. No need for a medical opinion

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[Abby Normal]

True, but the Doctors could tell Eddowes had been killed recently.

but we know, and they did then too, that's the case because of other witnesses/police beats

[Jon Guy]

but we know, and they did then too, that's the case because of other witnesses/police beats

But the doctor still estimated TOD at the scene
Because the body could have been killed earlier and dumped in Mitre Sq.

Dr Brown: The body had been mutilated, and was quite warm - no rigor mortis. The crime must have been committed within half an hour, or certainly within forty minutes from the time when I saw the body.

[Fisherman]

they might if their already sick/weak, their throats cut severely, their midsection ripped open, internal organs taken, and there skirt thrown up on a chilly morning.

not sure the good dr had that experience before and or accounted for it all.

The temperature of the body will drop along a schedule that is no very much influenced by rippings and eviscerations, Abby. Take the thighs, the buttocks, the overarms, the back - all of these parts will store heat effectively and will not abandon it over the course of one hour only. Exposure to the elements will certainly have an influence - but Phillips knew that quite well too. He will have weighed it in.

[Bridewell]

There's no way Richardson would've missed the body.

This, coupled with Cadosch's evidence, puts the TOD later than Dr. Phillips' estimation.

And that of Elizabeth Long/Darrell whose timing the coroner preferred to that of the police surgeon.

[Bridewell]

Taking a quick look at Richardsons shoe again, I find that he says this at the inquest:

"..... After cutting the leather off my boot I tied my boot up, and went out of the house into the market. I did not close the back door. It closed itself. I shut the front door.

A claim for which there is actually supporting photographic evidence:-


the door (assuming it was the original) was fitted with rising butt hinges.

[Fisherman]

Concerning Richardson, I made a crude drawing, depicting from above the part of the backyard with an 80 cm wide door, and Richardson sitting on the step. I have the door open, it is (of course) also 80 centimeters.
The door swung back on itīs hinges and closed itself, Richardson said, so it is reasonable to suggest that it would have leaned against him as he sat on the step.
I have him turned slightly to his right, since his interest was in the padlock on that side.
Behind the door, lying on the ground, I have drawn in a 160 centimeter figure with the legs drawn up.

Take a look at how much the door hides. From where he sits, it is impossible to see Chapman. And it is still kind of dark too!

Here is the link to my - crude - drawing:

https://ibb.co/mfMk3U

[Fisherman]

And that of Elizabeth Long/Darrell whose timing the coroner preferred to that of the police surgeon.

The police themselves went with Phillips, Colin, as per Swansons report.

[Simon Wood]

The back door of 29 Hanbury Street opened outwards, right to left. Two stone steps led down from the passageway to the yard.

When open, the bottom of the door—level with the passageway at the top of the steps—sat about two feet above the level of the yard, and could not have obscured the body.

[Fisherman]

The back door of 29 Hanbury Street opened outwards, right to left. Two stone steps led down from the passageway to the yard.

When open, the bottom of the door—level with the passageway at the top of the steps—sat about two feet above the level of the yard, and could not have obscured the body.

Take another look at my sketch, Simon. Richardson would have had to lean down to see under the door. And to be frank, just why would he do that? His focus was in the other direction. Furthermore, the lesser the door was swung open, the smaller the chance that Richardson would have seen anything at all but the stone steps underneath it - if he looked.

If, by chance, parts of Chapman could be seen down there, why would we suppose that Richardson would lean down, look to his left and try to make out what he could see between the doorblade and the steps in the murky morning light?

Is that the natural thing to do for somebody who comes to check a padlock in the opposite direction?

What I am saying is that there is no certainty at all that Richardson must have seen the body. That is a myth, one of many.

Normally I donīt agree with you over the perceived myths of the case. This time you disagree with me over one, it would seem. Funny, in a way.

[Simon Wood]

Let's agree to disagree.

[Fisherman]

Let's agree to disagree.

Or disagree to agree, perhaps?

[Joshua Rogan]

Fish, does your drawing take into account Inspector Chandler's inquest evidence;

"Her head was towards the back wall of the house, nearly two feet from the wall, at the bottom of the steps, but six or nine inches away from them."

[Fisherman]

Fish, does your drawing take into account Inspector Chandler's inquest evidence;

"Her head was towards the back wall of the house, nearly two feet from the wall, at the bottom of the steps, but six or nine inches away from them."

Nope - I didnīt remember that. Then again, I had her 160 centimeters tall, and she was but 152!
Even if we move her out somewhat, she will still be obscured by the door, Joshua. And of course, the door angle may have been acuter too. There are plenty of viable angles that support the view that she may have actually have been out of sight for Richardson.

I donīt think anybody has made this kind of drawing before. It is quite instrumental in explaining how Richardson could well have missed her, I believe.