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Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
Totally agree Sunny Delight.
''There is not one shred of evidence to link him to any other murders and the whole thing has become a hobby horse that is so convoluted and ultimately disrespectful it is hard to take seriously''
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Originally posted by Sunny Delight View PostI find the linking of an obviously innocent man like Charles Cross to the murders and the attempt to portray him as the Ripper wholly ungratifying. At the end of the day this is not just a name on a page- he was a real person, someone who lived a thoroughly decent life by all accounts. That he so happened to he the unlucky witness who found a murder victims body was his misfortune. There is not one shred of evidence to link him to any other murders and the whole thing has become a hobby horse that is so convoluted and ultimately disrespectful it is hard to take seriously.
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I find the linking of an obviously innocent man like Charles Cross to the murders and the attempt to portray him as the Ripper wholly ungratifying. At the end of the day this is not just a name on a page- he was a real person, someone who lived a thoroughly decent life by all accounts. That he so happened to he the unlucky witness who found a murder victims body was his misfortune. There is not one shred of evidence to link him to any other murders and the whole thing has become a hobby horse that is so convoluted and ultimately disrespectful it is hard to take seriously.
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Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
hi gut and strange
more than likely if innocent, and lech not wanting any kind of recognition, it had to do with not getting involved or his family involved and the hassles that went with it.
the killer obviously knew he gotten away without being seen and lech only confirms it. whats lech got to fear from the killer-reprisal for not seeing or hearing anything? cmon.
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Also, it's just occurred to me, Lechmere had a wife and several daughters, under those circumstances, I'd be worried about attracting attention to my family.
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>>whats lech got to fear from the killer-reprisal for not seeing or hearing anything? cmon.<<
Well, first of all, I don't believe Lechmere was trying to hide anything, but if we are talking about fear, then unemotional reasoning doesn't come into it, fear drives irrational behaviour. This was an early murder nobody could profile the killer's reasoning or actions at that stage.
>>more than likely if innocent, and lech not wanting any kind of recognition, it had to do with not getting involved or his family involved and the hassles that went with it.<<
I'd tend to agree with that option.
On the other hand creating a false name, if guilty, serves no real purpose other than drawing attention to oneself.Last edited by drstrange169; 05-09-2019, 10:06 PM.
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Originally posted by GUT View Post
And how would the killer know if the police were holding back information.
more than likely if innocent, and lech not wanting any kind of recognition, it had to do with not getting involved or his family involved and the hassles that went with it.
the killer obviously knew he gotten away without being seen and lech only confirms it. whats lech got to fear from the killer-reprisal for not seeing or hearing anything? cmon.
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Originally posted by drstrange169 View Post>>Actually its not. I had brought this up before and was reminded that lech hadnt seen the killer or even heard him walking away. The killer had nothing to fear from lech and so vice versus.<<
Actually it is, because in that scenario it would be Lechmere's fear of what the killer might do, not what the killer would actually do.
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Originally posted by drstrange169 View Post>>Actually its not. I had brought this up before and was reminded that lech hadnt seen the killer or even heard him walking away. The killer had nothing to fear from lech and so vice versus.<<
Actually it is, because in that scenario it would be Lechmere's fear of what the killer might do, not what the killer would actually do.
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>>Actually its not. I had brought this up before and was reminded that lech hadnt seen the killer or even heard him walking away. The killer had nothing to fear from lech and so vice versus.<<
Actually it is, because in that scenario it would be Lechmere's fear of what the killer might do, not what the killer would actually do.
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Originally posted by Patrick S View Post
I don't even want to try and understand the logic behind that, Steve.
Logic is hardly the word to use.
It's the inevitable result of being convinced that one man is guilty. Everything must point towards guilt, even when I does not.
It's a form of intellectual bankruptcy .
And just so it's clear, I am NOT saying it was Christer who argued this point.
Steve
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Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
Of course it's not Patrick.
I have been told by Lechmere theorists that if it is him, it merely shows that when Involved in any incident, he used the name "Cross".
You may not believe it, but apparently of he used the name Cross, at Pickfords, it actually strengths the case against Him.
It's truly unbelievable.
Steve
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Originally posted by Patrick S View Post
Thanks, Sam. This has been published here before. Perhaps by you (apologies for not recalling). I also did not recall if his name was given as Lechmere or Cross in news reports. This is yet another giant crack in the Lechmere the Ripper facade.
I have been told by Lechmere theorists that if it is him, it merely shows that when Involved in any incident, he used the name "Cross".
You may not believe it, but apparently of he used the name Cross, at Pickfords, it actually strengths the case against Him.
It's truly unbelievable.
Steve
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