DNA error

[JeffHamm]

Hi all,

Well, no surprise here really. Looks like there was a major error made in the DNA probability calculations. Basically, it claims he misidentified a mutation as 314.1C rather than 315.1C, which was the basis for the identification with Eddowes, and rather than being rare it turns out to be shared by 99% of people of European descent.

Anyway, here's a link to the article. I realize people here probably already know this as the article points out that the error was first noted by some Australian researchers posting here on casebook!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11345140

[GUT]

Yeah but if Aussies spotted it, it could be all upside down!

[Chris]

Well, no surprise here really. Looks like there was a major error made in the DNA probability calculations. Basically, it claims he misidentified a mutation as 314.1C rather than 315.1C, which was the basis for the identification with Eddowes, and rather than being rare it turns out to be shared by 99% of people of European descent.

Anyway, here's a link to the article. I realize people here probably already know this as the article points out that the error was first noted by some Australian researchers posting here on casebook!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...ectid=11345140

You heard it here first:

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=8370

[robhouse]

You heard it here first:

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=8370

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Chris, We have known each other for a while now, and I had no idea you were Australian!

RH

[GUT]

You heard it here first:

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=8370

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Love the skippy's on their heads.

[Chris]

Chris, We have known each other for a while now, and I had no idea you were Australian!

Well, you wouldn't expect me to make a thing like that obvious, would you?

[GUT]

Well, you wouldn't expect me to make a thing like that obvious, would you?

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G'day Chris

Not something anyone in their right mind would admit to.

[Jeff Leahy]

DNA error?

Hi Guys

While I understand that given developments a number of you might feel able to qualify the above statement

I trust that those of us who 'speculate'.. might be a little cynical of your claims.. given that Dr J's is a recognised expert..and however you dress it up..well you guys just are not?

Is this basic error a matter of fact? or of opinion?

and if so.. can i address your claims claim directly to Dr J and why (Specifically)

Yours Jeff

[Cogidubnus]

Hi Jeff

While I understand that given developments a number of you might feel able to qualify the above statement

I trust that those of us who 'speculate'.. might be a little cynical of your claims.. given that Dr J's is a recognised expert..and however you dress it up..well you guys just are not?

Is this basic error a matter of fact? or of opinion?

and if so.. can i address your claims claim directly to Dr J and why (Specifically)

As I understand it, no fewer than four emminent DNA experts have now looked at JLs claims and are expressing concern...it's gone way beyond "Casebook Amateurs" - take a look at the Independent article....

JL has already been approached, brushed off or ignored said approaches, and declined (so far) to comment...

Thereagain I'm only sitting on the sidelines here and others may know far more

All the best

Dave

[Jeff Leahy]

Hi Jeff

As I understand it, no fewer than four emminent DNA experts have now looked at JLs claims and are expressing concern...it's gone way beyond "Casebook Amateurs" - take a look at the Independent article....

Dave

I'm not disputing this Dave..I'm simply a commentator.

However I'm going to require a little more than this before claiming Dr J is Wrong?

So what you all got? Names and specifics help

Yours Jeff

[Simon Wood]

Hi Jeff,

Your determination to defend Anderson and Swanson to the hilt, and without one iota of proof condemn the wholly innocent Aaron Kosminski to eternal damnation is interesting, to put it mildly.

Regards,

Simon

[drstrange169]

"I trust that those of us who 'speculate'.. might be a little cynical of your claims.. given that Dr J's is a recognised expert..and however you dress it up..well you guys just are not?

Is this basic error a matter of fact? or of opinion?"


Hello Jeff,

All this has been detailed in ... err ... great detail, in the thread labelled,
A problem with the "Eddowes Shawl" DNA match



"... and if so.. can i address your claims claim directly to Dr J and why (Specifically)"


Please, please, please do so if you are in a position of influence.
So far, the good doctor has ignored all requests from here and elsewhere to answer the allegations.

[Tom_Wescott]

Jeff,

In light of the knowledge that the DNA on the shawl is not Eddowes or Kosminskis, I'm sure you'll agree that there's no way Kosminski could have been the Ripper and can once and for all be struck from the suspect list.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Westbourne Wink]

Well all I can say is this is HILARIOUS.

Anyone who doesn't think Russell Edwards has got everything he deserved for smug 'categorical' declaration is a far better person than I will ever be.

Jeff,

In light of the knowledge that the DNA on the shawl is not Eddowes or Kosminskis, I'm sure you'll agree that there's no way Kosminski could have been the Ripper and can once and for all be struck from the suspect list.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[pinkmoon]

Hi Jeff



As I understand it, no fewer than four emminent DNA experts have now looked at JLs claims and are expressing concern...it's gone way beyond "Casebook Amateurs" - take a look at the Independent article....

JL has already been approached, brushed off or ignored said approaches, and declined (so far) to comment...

Thereagain I'm only sitting on the sidelines here and others may know far more

All the best

Dave

Hi Dave,I've read the independent article and I'm absolutely appalled this book has been published stating case closed when Mr Edwards and Doc Jan should have checked the results of the d.n.a before publishing book.Of course none of this matters now because lots of books and yoyos have been sold so it's job done.