Is Kosminski the man really viable?

[robhouse]

It was noted

I apologize. It was a bit too much.

[Chris]

There is no document with his name on, no indication, no naming of Aaron Kosminski..in connection with the murders.
ipso facto, he is innocent of the crimes. Ipso fact 2, he cannot have been suspected without any evidence of such..in name.

Thanks, but that still makes no sense to me.

[Robert]

Well the suspect was either a Kosminski or A Kosminski. I hope that clears it up.

[Phil Carter]

I apologize. It was a bit too much.

Apology accepted.

[Dr. John Watson]

To Be (a suspect) or Not to Be

There is conclusive evidence that three retired police officials suspected a Jewish man named "Kosminski" of being Jack the Ripper. The evidence is anecdotal, in the form of personal recollections, and not recorded as official reports. The earliest, by Melville Macnaghton, first appeared in published form in 1894; the remaining writings, by Sir Robert Anderson and by Donald Swanson, appeared some years subsequent to 1894. Similarities in their sketchy descriptions of "Kosminski" make it clear they are all referring to the same individual. Later investigations by Ripper experts, comparing the "Kosminski" described by these officials with contemporary candidates, have determined that a Polish Jew named Aaron Kosminski is most likely the man named as a suspect by Macnaghton, Anderson and Swanson.

Aside from these anecdotal writings, extensive efforts have failed to discover any contemporary document referring to anyone named "Kosminski" in connection with the Ripper case. No police record, report or circular referring to a suspect named "Kosminski" has been found to exist. No correspondence mentioning "Kosminski" as a person of interest has been found. His name is not found on a list of Ripper "suspect" files (MEPO 3/141 32-135) once maintained by Metropolitan Police and now gone missing. No contemporary newspaper article has been found in which anyone named "Kosminski" is mentioned in connection with the crimes. No other police personnel associated with the Ripper investigation has identified anyone named "Kosminski" as a suspect in the murders. In short, no evidence of any kind, documentary or otherwise, contemporary or otherwise, has been found linking anyone named "Kosminski" with the Ripper murders.

Thus, it is a provable fact that three retired police officials identified in writing a man named "Kosminski" as a suspect in the Ripper murders, however not a shread of evidence has been found to corroborate their assertion.

John

[Phil Carter]

There is conclusive evidence that three retired police officials suspected a Jewish man named "Kosminski" of being Jack the Ripper. The evidence is anecdotal, in the form of personal recollections, and not recorded as official reports. The earliest, by Melville Macnaghton, first appeared in published form in 1894; the remaining writings, by Sir Robert Anderson and by Donald Swanson, appeared some years subsequent to 1894. Similarities in their sketchy descriptions of "Kosminski" make it clear they are all referring to the same individual. Later investigations by Ripper experts, comparing the "Kosminski" described by these officials with contemporary candidates, have determined that a Polish Jew named Aaron Kosminski is most likely the man named as a suspect by Macnaghton, Anderson and Swanson.

Aside from these anecdotal writings, extensive efforts have failed to discover any contemporary document referring to anyone named "Kosminski" in connection with the Ripper case. No police record, report or circular referring to a suspect named "Kosminski" has been found to exist. No correspondence mentioning "Kosminski" as a person of interest has been found. His name is not found on a list of Ripper "suspect" files (MEPO 3/141 32-135) once maintained by Metropolitan Police and now gone missing. No contemporary newspaper article has been found in which anyone named "Kosminski" is mentioned in connection with the crimes. No other police personnel associated with the Ripper investigation has identified anyone named "Kosminski" as a suspect in the murders. In short, no evidence of any kind, documentary or otherwise, contemporary or otherwise, has been found linking anyone named "Kosminski" with the Ripper murders.

Thus, it is a provable fact that three retired police officials identified in writing a man named "Kosminski" as a suspect in the Ripper murders, however not a shread of evidence has been found to corroborate their assertion.

John

(my emphasis)

Hello John,

Thank you. And even less connecting Aaron Kosminski with the crimes. Or the 3 police officers that stated the ball rolling in the first place.

best wishes

Phil

[robhouse]

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[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

Interesting that neither Macnaghten nor Swanson provided Kosminski's given name.

Regards,

Simon

[m_w_r]

Hi Phil C,

There was once a time when all we knew of Druitt's identity was that his initials were M.J.D. Even the Macnaghten Memoranda refer to him only as M.J. Druitt. How, in your view, do these facts affect our understanding of the candidacy of Montague John Druitt?

Regards,

Mark

[Jenni Shelden]

there is evidence
whether or not we like it, or whether or not at present we feel it is enough t convict him, three sneior officers named him. That is evidence.

they didnt name your mama

[Ally]

Oh Phil's got it entirely right. It was in fact that other insane Polish Jew BOB Kosminski that all the officers were talking about.

Bob Kosminski people. I broke the news first.

[Chris]

Oh Phil's got it entirely right. It was in fact that other insane Polish Jew BOB Kosminski that all the officers were talking about.

Bob Kosminski people. I broke the news first.

Strangely enough, Aaron did have a nephew who was known as Bob. But before Phil gets too excited I should add that he was only nine at the time of the murders.

[Ally]

He was a prodigy Chris. A prodigy.

[Casebook Wiki Editor]

they didnt name your mama

Not yet. But the thread hasn't built to a crescendo yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dozens

[Fisherman]

Jenni Shelden:

"there is evidence"

There is, indeed! Clear and unambiguos evidence that three senior officers regarded him as a suspect (one did NOT name him, in fact, and NONE named Aaron Kosminski).

That is what there is evidence of. Likewise, there is evidence that Ostrog, Druitt, Issenschmidt, Sadler, Pizer and a few more were named by policemen back in 1888. In neither case does that evidence go to show that these men were good or even justified suspects.

The best,
Fisherman