Is Kosminski the man really viable?

[Phil H]

Actually, you are all wrong. What MM meant to write was "circuses".

Kosminski was a Russian escapologist, a CIRCUS performer in ther vein of Houdini, which explains why no one saw him. He had worked in MANY CIRCuseS. He escaped from the Seaside Home and was never caught, hence Sir RA and DSS had to cover-up.

Phil H

[Errata]

I feel like I should nip these circumcision puns in the bud.

[Robert]

And that's only the tip of the iceberg.

[lynn cates]

cutting remarks

Hello Ben. You are sharp as ever and right to the point. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[Robert]

"...many years indulgence in solitary vices...there were many circumlocutions connected with this man..."

[Ben]

Are we sure 'circs' meant circumstances?

It meant "circumcisions", Jon.

Further evidence of a police suspicion towards the Jewish community.

[Wickerman]

I can speak only for myself, but yes.

I thought it worth asking because many years ago, maybe ten or more, I'm pretty sure Stewart used the word circulars when we talked about this line in the Memorandum.

Circulars is more police terminology and officers might recognize the abbreviation 'circs' as a term often used in reports, so I wondered if this interpretation (circumstances) was the result of a consensus or just an alternate interpretation.

Regards, Jon S.

[lynn cates]

Mac

Hello Robert.

"If the Polish Jew only developed homicidal tendencies afterwards then you'd think this would put him in the clear. After all, JTR was a pretty homicidal kind of fellow - and I am unanimous in that."

Actually, I believe it was MAC who put him in the clear when he exonerated him.

Cheers.
LC

[Chris]

Are we sure 'circs' meant circumstances?

I can speak only for myself, but yes.

[Chris]

Wouldn't it have been simpler to just agree with what I wrote earlier?
Quote:
As Swanson makes no mention of anything else but this eyewitness testimony then we cannot claim there were any other circumstances which connected Kosminski to a murder, before the date of the ID.

Certainly it would have been simpler. But as what you wrote was so misleading, it would hardly have been helpful to anyone.

Swanson wrote nothing about the suspect being convicted on "one circumstance alone". Let's discuss what he actually wrote, rather than putting words into his mouth.

[Wickerman]

Swanson doesn't say anything about circumstances at all. That's the point I'm making. The whole business about "one circumstance alone" is coming from you, not Swanson.

Wouldn't it have been simpler to just agree with what I wrote earlier?
Quote:
As Swanson makes no mention of anything else but this eyewitness testimony then we cannot claim there were any other circumstances which connected Kosminski to a murder, before the date of the ID.

Macnaghten introduced the suggestion of many circs, but Swanson only talks about this one witness, who's evidence cannot be anything else but circumstantial, as we tend to agree that no-one ever saw the murderer caught in the act.
Ergo, Swanson only introduced one circumstantial argument against the suspect.

[Note: with reference to the Macnaghten Memoranda, who determined 'circs' to mean circumstances as opposed to circulars?
If circulars, ie police notices concerning specific suspects, this could be more condemning to Kosminski and, might suggest the police were keeping an eye on him 'before' the ID, while he was loose on the streets.
Are we sure 'circs' meant circumstances?]

Regards, Jon S.

[sleekviper]

Simon,
Isn't the person spoken about Chapman by the unknown detective? Married, in business, respected, but a beast? He was hung in 1903, but still off the streets by 1905. Still have a vote for Wensley, (ha,ha)but that is the one Abberline favored isn't it?

[Robert]

If the Polish Jew only developed homicidal tendencies afterwards then you'd think this would put him in the clear. After all, JTR was a pretty homicidal kind of fellow - and I am unanimous in that.

[Bridewell]

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/c...t-of-friedrich

It seems that Schumacher was arrested as a suspected person for being on the premises of Leman Street police station - like he was an intruder.
I don't think it had anything to do with the Whitechapel murders.

Thanks, Lechmere. I wonder how it came to be mentioned in Parliament.

Regards, Bridewell.

[Simon Wood]

Hi Chris,

If Sagar was a Daily Mail reader he need not necessarily have bought a copy of Major Griffiths' book.

On 7th May 1899 the Mitre Court reference was quoted in Max Pemberton's review of Mysteries of Police and Crime.




Regards

Simon