Aaron was the ripper, case closed, lets get on with life.

[Alex Silver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZq9A4YF3Z0

His relatives speak. she understood yiddish after a while, must have been a shock for her to hear them talking about Aaron killing.

I'm not suprised. It was so obvious it was him anyway, he had already been Positively identified so thats the end, convicted. And yes all serial killers have very good behavour when they are locked up, John Wayne Gacy locked up and they let him out very early for very good behavour then he went on to kill 33 boys and men, same with Jeffery Dahmer. Aaron he had good behavour in lunatic asylum which means it was him, no doubt about it. case done.

By the way i know where there is a picture of Aaron which is the only one i believe, it's in a video done by Peter Ustinov. i am gonna see if i can find it on youtube, i have it on DVD.

[Alex Silver]

57:52 of video, guy in the middle tilting his head down abit, with black moustache and cap. looks abit like freddy mercury. thats Aaron, will also be in new book about him on picture pages.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMC7pWYG574

[Chris]

His relatives speak. she understood yiddish after a while, must have been a shock for her to hear them talking about Aaron killing.

Unfortunately this lady, Zena Shine, turns out to belong to a different Kozminski family. She is not a great-niece of Aaron Kozminski.

http://forum.casebook.org/showpost.php?p=449&postcount=16

Aaron Kozminski's real relations sadly know no more of him than they have read in books about the case.

[protohistorian]

Sooooo, I cannot get a life? Like that was in danger of happening! Dave

[Alex Silver]

Unfortunately this lady, Zena Shine, turns out to belong to a different Kozminski family. She is not a great-niece of Aaron Kozminski.

http://forum.casebook.org/showpost.php?p=449&postcount=16

Aaron Kozminski's real relations sadly know no more of him than they have read in books about the case.

Hmmm i'm pretty sure she is, she is talking about the killings and it was a major disgrace. must be

[Errata]

Hmmm i'm pretty sure she is, she is talking about the killings and it was a major disgrace. must be

well, my great uncle married his own nieces. thats right. when the first niece died he married her sister. so its entirely possible to have disgraced family members without them being jack the ripper.

she doesn't particularly act as though there was this readily acknowledged shameful relative. Her generation typically has a fairly rigid sense of propriety. i mean, if there is this deep dark family secret, she seems not the slightest bit concerned about airing the dirty laundry of family who still theoretically is ashamed of it.

its like with my great uncle. my family doesn't care because we aren't in his bloodline. so we laugh about it. my great uncles kids are uber sensitive... i got slapped for asking about it. And my dad pretty much got disowned for telling us about it.

[Chris]

Hmmm i'm pretty sure she is, she is talking about the killings and it was a major disgrace. must be

If you follow the link I provided you'll see that I traced her ancestry. The conclusions I reached were later confirmed by the 1911 census. There is further discussion on this thread:

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=4140

Rob House and I have also traced Aaron Kozminski's family, and it's clear that Zena Shine's grandfather Louis was not his brother. Contrary to some people's assumptions, Kozminski is not that uncommon a surname in Poland.

[The Good Michael]

Chris,

That's the kind of thing that makes Rob's book interesting. You two took the Kosminski name as far as you possibly could, and here you are acknowledging that the results show there's nothing in the Shine story. Lesser researchers may have just incorporated it all into their suspect theories, making it all more believable to the layman. Thanks to you and Rob for the work you've done.

Mike

[mklhawley]

Alex, don't let wishful thinking get in the way of reading Chris' research. Facts are pretty darn stubborn.

Mike