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Oh yes ,dear Gareth-I miss Gareth.He was my sparring partner you know! Like Helena he interpreted Chapman's apprenticeship as nothing more than a training in the blood sucking of leeches !
Hey---! maybe Chapman was in training to be a vampire! Maybe Anne Rice should be including him in her Vampire Chronicles!
Natalie/Norma,
I fully agree that Klosowski is worth writing a book about, especially if it's a non suspect-oriented book. For details on the Polish culture/language, Gareth Williams (Sam Flynn) is quite knowledgeable on this.
I'd suggest discretion and patience for anyone wishing to approach him out of the blue though, as he's very busy and not frequently on the boards.
Still, Ms. Wojtczak sounds like a name with which one would have linguistic capabilities in Polish.
If my understanding about Ms. Wojtczak not having conducted Ancestry research is a misconception, I apologize most sincerely. Possibly her queries only had to do with the German translation at ancestry.de.
By the by Natalie, I'm sure you would contribute very much to the project of a book on Chapman.
Thanks Maria much appreciated.The task is difficult and as Helena hints a bit unpleasant and unrewarding at times-he was a grotesque character if ever there was one.
I do believe that having a knowledge of the Polish language and culture is a big advantage here regarding the needed research and as Helena has both as well as being an experienced researcher with a number of very well received book under her belt, the book should be very instructive at least in this regard .
Klosowski /Chapman though was a man divided.The two halves of his personality were not ever on speaking terms and it was his wish, at least from 1894 or so, to be known as George Chapman and the picture of him with Bessie Taylor shows a man who liked to flaunt his killing machines above the bar of his pub.
Norma
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If my understanding about Ms. Wojtczak not having conducted Ancestry research is a misconception, I apologize most sincerely. Possibly her queries only had to do with the German translation at ancestry.de.
By the by Natalie, I'm sure you would contribute very much to the project of a book on Chapman.
There are currently half a dozen casebook posters who are in the process of writing books, some of them suspect-related, and about a dozen diligent researchers. All these people are putting thousands of hours into research – discreetly and without complaining. :-)
Get off Maria!
There have always been -just as there are currently -authors on casebook with their feathers ruffled [usually quite rightly ]---its not at all unusual and it seems to be par for the course,regrettable though that may be.
Helena has set herself a daunting task-in fact one that has not really ever been approached before with regards to Chapman.I for one look forward immensely to what she uncovers and discovers,
Norma
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"I'm a bit puzzled by the fact that you have already produced over 100 p. of the manuscript without having yet conducted research in the standard databases (such as Ancestry.com)"
What an extraordinary assumption. This is now a direct insult.
"There are currently half a dozen casebook posters who are in the process of writing books, some of them suspect-related, and about a dozen diligent researchers. All these people are putting thousands of hours into research – discreetly and without complaining. :-)"
I am not complaining I simply asked who wrote an article.
I am going to get this thread removed. I did not invite this kind of abuse.
Certain magazines and online forums don't list the author's name on short, basic biographical articles, particularly if it was a common effort.
Noone's implying that you'd rely on repeating casebook quotes in your own text, although I'd have to confess I'm a bit puzzled by the fact that you have already produced over 100 p. of the manuscript without having yet conducted research in the standard databases (such as Ancestry.com) or having perused basic secundary lit such as Ripper Notes, which are easily available on amazon at a reasonable price. Also puzzling is the slight tenacity of asking basic information (as in the recent Norden/Vanderlinden/Stewart Evans thread) without doing the required basic homework first - which can lead to embarrassing results.
There are currently half a dozen casebook posters who are in the process of writing books, some of them suspect-related, and about a dozen diligent researchers. All these people are putting thousands of hours into research – discreetly and without complaining. :-)
The best of lucks with you book, Ms. Wojtczak.
Certain magazines and online forums don't list the author's name on short, basic biographical articles, particularly if it was a common effort.
Noone's implying that you'd rely on repeating casebook quotes in your own text, although I'd have to confess I'm a bit puzzled by the fact that you have already produced over 100 p. of the manuscript without having yet conducted research in the standard databases (such as Ancestry.com) or having perused basic secundary lit such as Ripper Notes, which are easily available on amazon at a reasonable price. Also puzzling is the slight tenacity of asking basic information (as in the recent Norden/Vanderlinden/Stewart Evans thread) without doing the required basic homework first - which can lead to embarrassing results.
There are currently half a dozen casebook posters who are in the process of writing books, some of them suspect-related, and about a dozen diligent researchers. All these people are putting thousands of hours into research – discreetly and without complaining. :-)
Actually I was kinda wondering about this too.
I hope it's not another one of those books where most part of the text has its provenance from casebook/JTRForums or earlier books.
Just because I am curious about who wrote a biog on here (it is very unusual to have no author's name at the foot of the article) does not suggest that my book comprises repeating the myths and nonsense written in other books.
I merely asked who wrote it. I did not say I was using it, quoting it, relying on it, believing it -- just who wrote it! Jeez!
To Ms. Wojtczak:
You might consider PMing the casebook admin or, better yet, the casebook wiki editor, Sir Robert Anderson (his PM would be available in the members list). They might have an approximate idea of who wrote what. Perusing the Klosowski threads would also give you an idea of who's best informed in that matter.
I really wish I had done that now because this thread has turned into a criticism of me, my methods, my research and my book, despite neither of you knowing anything about what I have written or how!
What a downer, after I have put thousands of hours into research, to be faced with this when I log on to Casebook!
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