sugden's hints

[protohistorian]

Not being very net savy I was wondering 1. if anyone the character of Sugden's information was. He says," a wealth of Chapman material still does exist- in the records of Southwark coroners court, the central criminal court,the home office, and elsewhere..." (Sugden 1994, P.441) 2. If no one knows could someone post a link to the place I need to be? I would likely end up online banking in the Cayman Islands if left entirely to my own resources. Thank you all for the patience and help, Respectfully

[Sam Flynn]

Hi Dave,

Much of the Central Criminal Court information - in the form of the trial records - is available at oldbaileyonline.org, a link to which you've already had. The Old Bailey records are quite detailed, but it helps to have the Coroner's Court records as well - they are reproduced in HL Adam's (old and comparatively scarce) book Trial of George Chapman, which has already been referred to on a few occasions. The latter book also contains transcripts of the Police Court proceedings.

Most of the relevant information from the above has been used in various books and essays over the years anyway, Sugden included. Apart from some nuances and various minutiae about the case, I doubt that there's anything earth-shattering to be learned about Klosowski himself that hasn't been published elsewhere.

[protohistorian]

thank you

Hi Dave,

Much of the Central Criminal Court information - in the form of the trial records - is available at oldbaileyonline.org, a link to which you've already had. The Old Bailey records are quite detailed, but it helps to have the Coroner's Court records as well - they are reproduced in HL Adam's (old and comparatively scarce) book Trial of George Chapman, which has already been referred to on a few occasions. The latter book also contains transcripts of the Police Court proceedings.

Most of the relevant information from the above has been used in various books and essays over the years anyway, Sugden included. Apart from some nuances and various minutiae about the case, I doubt that there's anything earth-shattering to be learned about Klosowski himself that hasn't been published elsewhere.

Once again a great help, my old bailey searches are not even returning our guy. I know, I am doing it wrong, I'll keep at it. Need the practise anyhow. Warm regards

[Sam Flynn]

Once again a great help, my old bailey searches are not even returning our guy. I know, I am doing it wrong, I'll keep at it. Need the practise anyhow. Warm regards

Dave, clicking this link will take you right there. I'd advise you to use the "See Original" option (click on thumbnails at right of page) wherever possible - the web page transcriptions sometimes have typos in them.

[Stewart P Evans]

George Chapman

The definitive book on Severin Klosowski (alias George Chapman) has yet to be written. There is a large amount of material on him at TNA, the below prison petition being an example.

[protohistorian]

Dave, clicking this link will take you right there. I'd advise you to use the "See Original" option (click on thumbnails at right of page) wherever possible - the web page transcriptions sometimes have typos in them.

Thank youvery much. What is TNA that Stewart refers to, and do you Skype?

[Sam Flynn]

Hi Stewart,

The definitive book on Severin Klosowski (alias George Chapman) has yet to be written.

I agree - it deserves to be, though. A no-nonsense account, that is, stripped of the usual "he-dunnit" Ripper veneer.

[Stewart P Evans]

Illustrative Material

There's quite a lot of illustrative material available too -

[Stewart P Evans]

Newspaper Articles

And loads of obscure newspaper articles such as this one in one of my scrapbooks -

[Sam Flynn]

Thank youvery much. What is TNA that Stewart refers to?

The (UK) National Archives, formerly the Public Records Office.

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

[protohistorian]

The (UK) National Archives, formerly the Public Records Office.

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Thanks again. warm regards