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  • #91
    This was the photo in the original post #72 on this thread by Rob House that I quoted in my last post

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Debra A View Post
      This was the photo in the original post #72 on this thread by Rob House that I quoted in my last post

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      This 'Henry Hyams' in the photo above, who was admitted to Colney Hatch Lunatic Asylum, from Whitechapel Infirmary, in 1896 (and died there a short time later), could have been the Henry Hyams who lived in Duke Street in 1888 (literally around the corner from Mitre Square) at the time of the Double Event, as confirmed in Post#8 of this thread (link below). Oh my goodness - I'm going down a JtR rabbit hole.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by chubbs View Post

        This 'Henry Hyams' in the photo above, who was admitted to Colney Hatch Lunatic Asylum, from Whitechapel Infirmary, in 1896 (and died there a short time later), could have been the Henry Hyams who lived in Duke Street in 1888 (literally around the corner from Mitre Square) at the time of the Double Event, as confirmed in Post#8 of this thread (link below). Oh my goodness - I'm going down a JtR rabbit hole.

        https://forum.casebook.org/forum/rip...683#post195683
        I like you, Chubbs!
        I found it difficult to see your reply, or my reply. I'd spend much more time on Casebook if I was able to navigate it properly.
        Last edited by Debra A; 08-04-2023, 10:00 PM.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by chubbs View Post

          This 'Henry Hyams' in the photo above, who was admitted to Colney Hatch Lunatic Asylum, from Whitechapel Infirmary, in 1896 (and died there a short time later), could have been the Henry Hyams who lived in Duke Street in 1888 (literally around the corner from Mitre Square) at the time of the Double Event, as confirmed in Post#8 of this thread (link below). Oh my goodness - I'm going down a JtR rabbit hole.

          https://forum.casebook.org/forum/rip...683#post195683
          Interesting observation, but...

          The gentleman in the link is a Henry H. Hyams, 5 Duke Street, Aldgate, who is the secretary of a benevolent society.

          In the 1902 London City Directory there is a Henry H. Hyams, listed at No. 8 Duke Street, Aldgate (on the East Side) who ran the "Jewish Ladies' Benevolent Loan Society."

          It sounds like it could conceivably be the same bloke, only he moved across the street.



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          • #95
            Originally posted by rjpalmer View Post

            Interesting observation, but...

            The gentleman in the link is a Henry H. Hyams, 5 Duke Street, Aldgate, who is the secretary of a benevolent society.

            In the 1902 London City Directory there is a Henry H. Hyams, listed at No. 8 Duke Street, Aldgate (on the East Side) who ran the "Jewish Ladies' Benevolent Loan Society."

            It sounds like it could conceivably be the same bloke, only he moved across the street.



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            Thank you so much! This is exactly the sort of very helpful post I was hoping for. I'm not clever enough to research archives (I get hopelessly lost), but you lot are experts. What I'd really like to know is the entire life history of this Henry Hyams, so I can eliminate him from my enquiries! Any help gratefully received.

            Currently, I'm seeing him in my mind's eye murdering Catherine Eddowes, popping around the corner to his home (30 seconds away) with half an apronful of body parts, waiting until the heat dies down, then popping out again to chuck the piece of cloth away in Goulston Street. Aaaargh!

            EDIT: ...because, after all, he's the right sort of age and height, he's got a moustache, he dies in Colney Hatch Asylum in 1896, he lives in the area and his surname is Hyams!!!! Yes - I've found him! My very own JtR!
            Last edited by chubbs; 08-05-2023, 07:34 AM.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Debra A View Post

              I like you, Chubbs!
              I found it difficult to see your reply, or my reply. I'd spend much more time on Casebook if I was able to navigate it properly.
              Liking an anonymous name on an internet forum is a dangerous game! Careful now!

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              • #97
                Originally posted by chubbs View Post

                Liking an anonymous name on an internet forum is a dangerous game! Careful now!
                I only like you because you led me back to this thread when you replied to my post otherwise I wouldn't have ever found it again (and still can't see it anywhere when I come to the boards- I have to use the email notification link I got when you replied to my post to see any further posts! No idea why)

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by chubbs View Post

                  What I'd really like to know is the entire life history of this Henry Hyams, so I can eliminate him from my enquiries!
                  He's not an easy man to pin down.

                  His mentioned brother, Morris, may also have been running a business in Whitechapel.
                  Last edited by Debra A; 08-05-2023, 10:17 AM.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Debra A View Post

                    He's not an easy man to pin down.

                    His mentioned brother, Morris, may also have been running a business in Whitechapel.
                    I don't think he's The Ripper anymore - Today I think it's Joseph Levy's brother.

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                    • I am not sure if this is of interest to anyone, but in the old bailey records a Hyam Hyams gives evidence as a witness in the defence of David Phillips (who was charged with unlawfully obtaining four railway tickets by false pretences with intent to defraud. Second Count, Unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.). This was on 27 June 1887. I do not know if it is the same man being discussed in this thread, but the details provided in his evidence make it seem likely to me. The entry can be found at:

                      A searchable online edition of the Proceedings of the Old Bailey, 1674-1913.


                      It contains just a tidbit about his daily life.

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                      • Apologies - just seen the case I posted above is subject to an earlier thread.

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