Originally posted by Wickerman
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Hutchinson and Blotchy
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Good point if you're speaking to me. Blotchy is still in the mix. Personally the way AK is described, I always think of Druitt.
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Yes I was, but another post slipped in betweenOriginally posted by The Macdonald Triad View Post
Good point if you're speaking to me. Blotchy is still in the mix. Personally the way AK is described, I always think of Druitt.
I just thought it might be interesting to pursue that line of thought.
So, does the 'glaring in the face' still irk you if AK is not the killer?Regards, Jon S.
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Yeah it does. If I was on the lash and trying to be unobtrusive, if anyone stooped down to deliberately eye f#@$ me like that would get bashed. No questions asked. Either AK is a figment or Hutchinson was playing pimp?Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
Yes I was, but another post slipped in between
I just thought it might be interesting to pursue that line of thought.
So, does the 'glaring in the face' still irk you if AK is not the killer?
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hes a fig newton of hutch whos playing the man who saw the ripper.Originally posted by The Macdonald Triad View Post
Yeah it does. If I was on the lash and trying to be unobtrusive, if anyone stooped down to deliberately eye f#@$ me like that would get bashed. No questions asked. Either AK is a figment or Hutchinson was playing pimp?"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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re abberline. did he catch the ripper?Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
Where do you get the idea he couldn't see what he claimed to see?
Who better to judge than those who lived at the time.
Officers who are present sign off on the witness statement, if they are not satisfied, they don't sign.
Badham, Ellisdon & Arnold all signed his statement. Which means they accepted his story, which also means they knew he was not too far away to see what he claimed to see.
After Abberline interviewed him, he also accepted the story.
So why do we get modern armchair detectives complaining, he couldn't have seen this, or that.
Many objections against Hutch, are just inventions.
I'd still like to know what "newspaper tattle" means.

right. he was a capable cop, but not infallible. imho he was simply fooled initially by a good liar. its not that controversial an idea. im sure by this time he was under a lot of pressure, stressed out and had a bit too much of the wishful thinking on the dream witness who was too good to be true. and hutch was obviously.
its more likely thats what happened than hutchs ridiculous story being true.
and you know exactly what i mean by newspaper tattle. not playing that little game with you wick.
and dont even start with me about "inventions"wick. your lewis/ kennedy stuff, lewis seeing mary pass up the court with aman etc etc is Edison like"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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I like Hutchinson, for further investigation. Abberline was a twat for letting him go so soon. I'd also like to investigate you Abby for having multiple profiles on the boards but hey, Jill the Ripper is an option..Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
re abberline. did he catch the ripper?
right. he was a capable cop, but not infallible. imho he was simply fooled initially by a good liar. its not that controversial an idea. im sure by this time he was under a lot of pressure, stressed out and had a bit too much of the wishful thinking on the dream witness who was too good to be true. and hutch was obviously.
its more likely thats what happened than hutchs ridiculous story being true.
and you know exactly what i mean by newspaper tattle. not playing that little game with you wick.
and dont even start with me about "inventions"wick. your lewis/ kennedy stuff, lewis seeing mary pass up the court with aman etc etc is Edison like
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i have no idea what your last sentence means macOriginally posted by The Macdonald Triad View Post
I like Hutchinson, for further investigation. Abberline was a twat for letting him go so soon. I'd also like to investigate you Abby for having multiple profiles on the boards but hey, Jill the Ripper is an option..
"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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Ok, so that's assuming AK was as aggressive minded as Hutch. I mean if AK was like many Gentry, just a wimp, he may be too scared, not one for confrontation, and be worried if Hutch started to follow them.Originally posted by The Macdonald Triad View Post
Yeah it does. If I was on the lash and trying to be unobtrusive, if anyone stooped down to deliberately eye f#@$ me like that would get bashed. No questions asked. Either AK is a figment or Hutchinson was playing pimp?
So, we have Hutch as assertive, and AK is a wimp, does that make AK a figment?Regards, Jon S.
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Then why would he be on Dorset St in the first place? C'mon. The West End would be safer.Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
Ok, so that's assuming AK was as aggressive minded as Hutch. I mean if AK was like many Gentry, just a wimp, he may be too scared, not one for confrontation, and be worried if Hutch started to follow them.
So, we have Hutch as assertive, and AK is a wimp, does that make AK a figment?
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Right, so you think newspapers just invented stories, thats your "tattle", not that you can offer an example in this series.Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
re abberline. did he catch the ripper?
right. he was a capable cop, but not infallible. imho he was simply fooled initially by a good liar. its not that controversial an idea. im sure by this time he was under a lot of pressure, stressed out and had a bit too much of the wishful thinking on the dream witness who was too good to be true. and hutch was obviously.
its more likely thats what happened than hutchs ridiculous story being true.
and you know exactly what i mean by newspaper tattle. not playing that little game with you wick.
It's just your choice so you can avoid the alternative.
My story is in print, its right there in the press, so its no invention.and dont even start with me about "inventions"wick. your lewis/ kennedy stuff, lewis seeing mary pass up the court with aman etc etc is Edison like
Regards, Jon S.
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He was only in Dorset st. because of Kelly.Originally posted by The Macdonald Triad View Post
Then why would he be on Dorset St in the first place? C'mon. The West End would be safer.
He was minding his own business walking up Commercial St., why?, well perhaps he lived on Commercial St. - or just off it, there were plenty of middle-class properties in the area, so why not?Regards, Jon S.
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well I can kill all the birds with one stone on this one wick. the only paper out of all of them that said a woman and a man passed up the court was wrong obviously (so tattle- erroneous, embellished and or exagerated stories) and you latching on to it to bolster your lewis saw aman and mary walk up millers court is pure invention. so there lolOriginally posted by Wickerman View Post
Right, so you think newspapers just invented stories, thats your "tattle", not that you can offer an example in this series.
It's just your choice so you can avoid the alternative.
My story is in print, its right there in the press, so its no invention."Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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no but because of my nick name im often mistaken as one. are you often mistaken for a man because of your nick name wickerMAN. ; )Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
Ah, there is a Jill the Ripper on the members list, ....are you masquerading as a woman?
"Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?"
-Edgar Allan Poe
"...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."
-Frederick G. Abberline
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