A closer look at George Hutchinson

[Abby Normal]

I'm not sure how anyone can first accuse Hutchinson of being this killer, then being deceptive and being a lair, then call him a "credible witness".

There is an endless list of theorists who have accused Hutch of lying, one even emphatically said it was proven he lied, yet when challenged not one theorists has produced this proof of what he is supposed to have lied about.
Whatever he was doing there I don't know, possibly the real reason he waited was with intent to mug this fancy dressed stranger after he left Millers Court - I have no idea.

What I do take as satisfactory are the various press reports of Sarah Lewis's court testimony where she described a male & female who entered Millers Court while a man (Hutchinson) stood opposite. This for me is sufficient corroboration that Hutchinson was telling the truth about Kelly being with another man.
The modern accusations against Hutchinson to my mind are all smoke & mirrors. If you want him to look bad, to look suspicious, then that is how you will tell his story. The streets were full of suspicious people with all manner of intents, this doesn't make any of them Jack the Ripper.

hi wick. sorry i wasnt clear. re him being credible witness.. i should have said last credible sighting of a person with mary. there is no doubt about it like say aman or maxwell sighting.

[Wickerman]

I'm not sure how anyone can first accuse Hutchinson of being this killer, then being deceptive and being a lair, then call him a "credible witness".

There is an endless list of theorists who have accused Hutch of lying, one even emphatically said it was proven he lied, yet when challenged not one theorists has produced this proof of what he is supposed to have lied about.
Whatever he was doing there I don't know, possibly the real reason he waited was with intent to mug this fancy dressed stranger after he left Millers Court - I have no idea.

What I do take as satisfactory are the various press reports of Sarah Lewis's court testimony where she described a male & female who entered Millers Court while a man (Hutchinson) stood opposite. This for me is sufficient corroboration that Hutchinson was telling the truth about Kelly being with another man.
The modern accusations against Hutchinson to my mind are all smoke & mirrors. If you want him to look bad, to look suspicious, then that is how you will tell his story. The streets were full of suspicious people with all manner of intents, this doesn't make any of them Jack the Ripper.

[richardnunweek]

Hi
It depends if you discount George William Topping Hutchinson as the witness, if so then he could be the killer. if not absolutely not, Regards Richatd.

[Herlock Sholmes]

In my honest opinion and analysis i still think hutch is most likely to be jack the ripper:

1. he was there with mary kelly near time of death.
2. he engaged in stalking behavior.
3. he lied and made up a ridiculous suspect in aman.
4. he waited until the inquest was over to conveniently come forward.
5. his presence lurking was corroborated by sarah lewis
6. he has no alibi at probable time of death, and indeed by his own account , was walking about.
7. he accused a jew. the gsg incriminated a jew.
8. he fits general profile to a t.
9. was staying at the victoria house. a stones throw from dorset street and in tje heart of ripper territory.
10. fits the general witness descriptions
11. unlike bury, druitt and others the mackenzie murder dosnt rule him out.
12. only ripper suspect that was both a "witness" with an actual physical connection to the case and a police person of interst.
13. Changed story from police deposition to press story now saying he stood outside her window indicating he knew not only where she exactly lived but placing himself even closer to her place of death.

According to witnesses, Four men were seen to be in mary kellys presense the night of her murder. so one of them is most likely to be her killer and therefore jack the ripper.

Joe Barnett
Blotchy
George Hutchinson
Astrakan man

Joe Barnett has an alibi and was cleared by police.
Blotchy was seen earlier with the victim than the usual time of ripper murders and hutches account exonerates him.
Aman is more than likely a de facto false suspect.
George hurchinson was the last credible person seen with mary kelly. he places himself in her company around tod, engaged in stalking behavior and has zero alibi. IMHO George Hutchinson is most likely to be Mary Kellys killer and therefor Jack the Ripper.

Certainly worthy of attention Abby. I’d add one ‘for’ and one ‘against’ point.

The ‘for’ point would be the way he described stooping to look into the face of Kelly’s companion (if he existed) This just seems a bit weird to me to say the least. Was this just a way of trying to show that Kelly’s companion was behaving suspiciously (therefore a potential killer) and also a way of showing that Hutchinson got a good close look at him to add weight to his description?

The ‘against’ point would be him loitering outside Miller’s Court and being seen by Sarah Lewis. Surely he’d have seen Lewis and have been aware that he’d been seen so would he have gone on to kill? The same point applies to BS man in Berner Street of course.

He’s certainly a suspicious character Abby. Who knows?

[FISHY1118]

In my honest opinion and analysis i still think hutch is most likely to be jack the ripper:

1. he was there with mary kelly near time of death.
2. he engaged in stalking behavior.
3. he lied and made up a ridiculous suspect in aman.
4. he waited until the inquest was over to conveniently come forward.
5. his presence lurking was corroborated by sarah lewis
6. he has no alibi at probable time of death, and indeed by his own account , was walking about.
7. he accused a jew. the gsg incriminated a jew.
8. he fits general profile to a t.
9. was staying at the victoria house. a stones throw from dorset street and in tje heart of ripper territory.
10. fits the general witness descriptions
11. unlike bury, druitt and others the mackenzie murder dosnt rule him out.
12. only ripper suspect that was both a "witness" with an actual physical connection to the case and a police person of interst.
13. Changed story from police deposition to press story now saying he stood outside her window indicating he knew not only where she exactly lived but placing himself even closer to her place of death.

According to witnesses, Four men were seen to be in mary kellys presense the night of her murder. so one of them is most likely to be her killer and therefore jack the ripper.

Joe Barnett
Blotchy
George Hutchinson
Astrakan man

Joe Barnett has an alibi and was cleared by police.
Blotchy was seen earlier with the victim than the usual time of ripper murders and hutches account exonerates him.
Aman is more than likely a de facto false suspect.
George hurchinson was the last credible person seen with mary kelly. he places himself in her company around tod, engaged in stalking behavior and has zero alibi. IMHO George Hutchinson is most likely to be Mary Kellys killer and therefor Jack the Ripper.

Hi Abby , youve made some interesting points thats for sure for your case , just a few things if i may , Firstly, how exactly does George Hutchinson fit the profile to a T ? If you look at what was done to Mary Kellys body and what George did for a living, and the fact very little is know about him , im just wondering what possible motive or what profile exist to match that of george that he could have had for such a barbaric act ?


Heres just a few more interesting points


''Hutchinson was paid the equivalent of a months wages by the police for his help in searching for his Ripper suspect, he was also paid by the press for his story. Could this be the real reason why an unemployed groom was so keen to help and perhaps why he elaborated on his statement description a little''.

This was from an article on casebook about George which im sure you know about . Just my opinion but i dont think the police of the day were paying jack the ripper to find himself [if that story if indeed true]



If George was the Ripper he certainly fooled Abberline and the whole entire Police force and Scotland yard , at such a young age 22 [i think could have been a bit more as know one really knows for sure ].

Abberline stated that he believed Hutchinson's statement was, 'Important and true'. If the police did not believe Hutchinson's statement description, why did they arrest Joseph Denny and Joseph Isaacs. Was it because they were foreign looking and wearing long Astrakhan trimmed coat's, exactly as Hutchinson had described.[Point 3 ?]Whos claim is it that its a ''fact'' he lied ?


Just my opinion on G.H. .... Too much circumstancial evidence and conjectour to rest my head on the pillow at night to convince me that he was jack the ripper . just sayin.....

cheers fishy

[Abby Normal]

In my honest opinion and analysis i still think hutch is most likely to be jack the ripper:

1. he was there with mary kelly near time of death.
2. he engaged in stalking behavior.
3. he lied and made up a ridiculous suspect in aman.
4. he waited until the inquest was over to conveniently come forward.
5. his presence lurking was corroborated by sarah lewis
6. he has no alibi at probable time of death, and indeed by his own account , was walking about.
7. he accused a jew. the gsg incriminated a jew.
8. he fits general profile to a t.
9. was staying at the victoria house. a stones throw from dorset street and in tje heart of ripper territory.
10. fits the general witness descriptions
11. unlike bury, druitt and others the mackenzie murder dosnt rule him out.
12. only ripper suspect that was both a "witness" with an actual physical connection to the case and a police person of interst.
13. Changed story from police deposition to press story now saying he stood outside her window indicating he knew not only where she exactly lived but placing himself even closer to her place of death.

According to witnesses, Four men were seen to be in mary kellys presense the night of her murder. so one of them is most likely to be her killer and therefore jack the ripper.

Joe Barnett
Blotchy
George Hutchinson
Astrakan man

Joe Barnett has an alibi and was cleared by police.
Blotchy was seen earlier with the victim than the usual time of ripper murders and hutches account exonerates him.
Aman is more than likely a de facto false suspect.
George hurchinson was the last credible person seen with mary kelly. he places himself in her company around tod, engaged in stalking behavior and has zero alibi. IMHO George Hutchinson is most likely to be Mary Kellys killer and therefor Jack the Ripper.