You are Hutchinson and you're in trouble....

[Fleetwood Mac]

Morning all....

Well....I don't mean you walk the streets at night in need of a bed.

I mean you have a choice to make. This thread isn't about whether or not Hutchinson is our killer - but rather concerned with what you personally would do when in a spot of trouble. I'm interested to see the results.

Both of the following are viable options depending on your personality.

So - you've killed someone and there is a chance you will be caught - as ever - and you will hang. You know you've been seen loitering outside and you can't be sure whether or not you've been seen going in or coming out of the house.

When in trouble it's a case of fight or flight - so do you?

a) Flight: you know there's a chance you may have been seen going in or going out and that you could be ID'd in the event you go to the police station. Do you avoid this risk and keep your head down out of the way of police/witnesses/ID parades.

b) Fight: another poster used the analogy of the kid in the sweetshop and the kid may fight by appealing to his dad for help: "wasn't me - it was the rough looking kid - it's not fair that I'm being blamed - do something about it". In this instance the fight is the appeal for help from the police: "wasn't me - it was the Jew - and you know what they're like"

So - in this situation would you keep your head down (flight) or bluff it out (fight)?

Think of a situation where you've been in trouble and had your back to the wall - fight or flight?

Wondering what the consensus would be.....

[c.d.]

I would have to go with flight. It's not like Hutch had a wife and children and a flourishing business. I would have hauled ass and changed my name and appearance. In the LVP, I think the chances of finding him would have been that of the proverbial needle in the haystack.

c.d.

[Adam Went]

Fight. No problem running away from your problems, they will always come back to you eventually. And it's going to look even more suspicious if your name comes up and they notice that you've mysteriously disappeared a day or 2 after the murder....many killers have been caught out in exactly that way.

Cheers,
Adam.

[Fleetwood Mac]

I would have to go with flight. It's not like Hutch had a wife and children and a flourishing business. I would have hauled ass and changed my name and appearance. In the LVP, I think the chances of finding him would have been that of the proverbial needle in the haystack.

c.d.

Thanks CD. Am I right in thinking you'd weigh up the risk of being found by the police against not being found and base your decision on that?

[Fleetwood Mac]

Fight. No problem running away from your problems, they will always come back to you eventually. And it's going to look even more suspicious if your name comes up and they notice that you've mysteriously disappeared a day or 2 after the murder....many killers have been caught out in exactly that way.

Cheers,
Adam.

Thanks Adam. Am I right in thinking you're assuming the police will find you and that is at the heart of your decision?

[The Good Michael]

Flight. I'm joining the French Foreign Legion. Not kidding. Maybe if I've killed before and am an expert liar, conman, and manipulator with police detectives, and I have a massive ego, I'll hang around and give it a slight shot. But, I'm 23, so I'm outta there,

Mike

[Fleetwood Mac]

Flight. I'm joining the French Foreign Legion. Not kidding. Maybe if I've killed before and am an expert liar, conman, and manipulator with police detectives, and I have a massive ego, I'll hang around and give it a slight shot. But, I'm 23, so I'm outta there,

Mike

Cheers Mike. 2 flights and a fight so far....

Am I right in thinking you're weighing up whether or not you can convince them you didn't do it and it's just too much of a risk to take to try to convince them when you know the alternative is hanging?

[Observer]

A totally pointless exercise. But I'd fight that makes it 2-2 . As I have said on the Hutchinson and antisemitism thread, none of us and that includes the deluded Mr Mac can ever hope to predict the reason George Hutchinson came forward as he did, on the 12th November 1888. What are you going to do Mac see who gets the most votes, and declare the winning answer as proof beyond doubt?

Observer

[Fleetwood Mac]

A totally pointless exercise. But I'd fight that makes it 2-2 . As I have said on the Hutchinson and antisemitism thread, none of us and that includes the deluded Mr Mac can ever hope to predict the reason George Hutchinson came forward as he did, on the 12th November 1888. What are you going to do Mac see who gets the most votes, and declare the winning answer as proof beyond doubt?

Observer

That's 2 flights and 2 fights then.

Thanks for the contribution Observer.

[DVV]

none of us and that includes the deluded Mr Mac can ever hope to predict the reason George Hutchinson came forward as he did, on the 12th November 1888. Observer

True, Observer,

although Sarah Lewis seems the most likely reason, there are other possibilities.
I once suggested that Hutch might have aroused suspicions in the VH - indeed, Hutch said to the press that he had discussed with "friends" there (on Monday morning if I'm correct) about what he had seen on Friday night, and subsequently decided to come forward.

As to Mac's question, I don't know what to answer.

Amitiés,
David

[Observer]

Hi Dave, there are endless reasons. All this poll is providing is the way in which individual posters would react to the situation. Hutchinson was an individual, we'd only be guessing if we were to speculate as to why he came forward.

Regards

Observer

[c.d.]

Thanks CD. Am I right in thinking you'd weigh up the risk of being found by the police against not being found and base your decision on that?

Hi Mac,

As I said, Hutch had no ties such as a wife, family or job so being on the move for such a man would not be as suspicious as it would be for someone with those sort of encumberances. Even if he were found, all he would have to do would be to provide some sort of reasonable explanation for his leaving London..."I heard they were hiring men in (fill in name of town)." Let the police have all the suspicions they want and make them prove those suspicions. Leaving town when he was not wanted by the police did not constitute a crime.

c.d.

[ianincleveland]

id stay and say nothing,its up to the police to prove youve done it.If questioned id only tell the police what they already know(you can do this by listening to how they word their questions).

Ive actually been arrested a few times once i was arrested and accussed of a very serious offence,i hadnt done it,i was actually put forward by the people i believe were involved(to this day no one has been convicted),i knew as i had no proper alibi(i lived alone) that circumstantial evidence could be used to convict me,i just told the police i wasnt there which was true but i learnt how police question you shows how much they already know

[Fleetwood Mac]

Hi Mac,

As I said, Hutch had no ties such as a wife, family or job so being on the move for such a man would not be as suspicious as it would be for someone with those sort of encumberances. Even if he were found, all he would have to do would be to provide some sort of reasonable explanation for his leaving London..."I heard they were hiring men in (fill in name of town)." Let the police have all the suspicions they want and make them prove those suspicions. Leaving town when he was not wanted by the police did not constitute a crime.

c.d.

Fair enough CD - seems better to keep out of the way. Why make it easier for the police by turning up and saying you were around at the time of the murder? I get you - nothing much to gain from that - when you could just as easily explain the same thing if identified and found.

I'd go with you by the way - for crime where the punishment is hanging - I'd keep well out of the way.

[Fleetwood Mac]

id stay and say nothing,its up to the police to prove youve done it.If questioned id only tell the police what they already know(you can do this by listening to how they word their questions).

Ive actually been arrested a few times once i was arrested and accussed of a very serious offence,i hadnt done it,i was actually put forward by the people i believe were involved(to this day no one has been convicted),i knew as i had no proper alibi(i lived alone) that circumstantial evidence could be used to convict me,i just told the police i wasnt there which was true but i learnt how police question you shows how much they already know

I'd agree - I'd say nothing. The less you tell - the less you give away. And there's a chance you may not have been ID'd near the scene anyway - what's to gain from volunteering that information.

So - we have - 4 flight and 2 fight.