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  • John Cleary: NY Herald, September 11th, 1889

    Here is what I feel is a very strange story, perhaps someone here who was unaware of it until now might find it intriguing also. Do note the description of John near the end of the article;


    "London in general, and Whitechapel in particular, were thrown into a feverish state of excitement yesterday morning by the news that "Jack the Ripper" had murdered and mutilated his ninth victim. Both the murder and the mutilation were reported to be, and indeed proved to be, more horrible than in any one of the eight cases preceding. The quick and close review of the facts by the police department led to the conclusion late yesterday afternoon that the remains found did not represent "Jack the Ripper's" handiwork, and this may or may not be true.

    There is a very extraordinary feature, however, in this case, which has been lacking in all the others. That it is extraordinary no one will doubt who reads the brief story of last Saturday night as detailed below. If the woman found in archway was a victim of "Jack the Ripper," it is positively sure either that the murderer has been seen by many people, or that another man who knew of the murder and all the circumstances so long ago as last Saturday night is abroad, and can be found, if the police are clever enough. On the other hand, last Saturday night's events indicate to some extent that the body found yesterday, be it that of a murdered woman or a body from a dissecting room, was in the hands of more than one man who knew all about it, because on last Saturday night a man betrayed the whole affair. The circumstances are as follows, and will be verified in every particular by affidavit, should the police department desire.

    Last Sunday morning at five minutes past one o'clock a young man called at the HERALD office and reported that there was another "Jack the Ripper" murder. He was sent up to the editorial rooms and interviewed by the night editor. He said that a mutilated body had been found in Backchurch-lane, in Whitechapel. He said that it had been found by a policeman at twenty minutes past eleven o'clock. The map of London was immediately studied by two reporters in order to locate Backchurch-lane, while the editor cross-questioned the man. He said it had been told to him by an acquaintance of his, a police inspector whom he had met in Whitechapel High-street. He said there was no doubt about it, and that he had hurried to the HERALD office understanding that he would be rewarded for the news. He said his name was John Cleary, and that he lived at 21, White Horse-yard, Drury-lane. He was asked to write down his name and address; and he did so, the writing being preserved. His information was explicit and seemingly authentic, and two reporters were detailed to take the man with them, and go and get the story.

    The two reporters went out, and one of them stopped on the landing of the stairway in going down, and asked the man some more questions. Under this examination he varied slightly, saying that the man who had told him was not a police inspector, but an ex-member of the police force. This statement has, perhaps, some significance to all who have been following the murders closely. He then went down to the street with the reporters. They called a hansom and told the man to get in with them; but he first hesitated, and then refused. His excuse was that it was too far from his home. They urged him to go, but he was firm. One of them proposed to take him back upstairs, in order to have him near at hand if necessary; but the necessity of immediate departure compelled them to start and leave the man to go his own way. He was assured that if the news proved authentic he would be handsomely rewarded, and he went away apparently contented with the arrangement.

    The two reporters drove rapidly to Backchurch-lane, and found it without difficulty. They made a thorough search of the neighbourhood. They went down as far as the archway where the body was found yesterday morning, but found all quiet and no trace of any murder. They met two police officers, one an inspector, and the other a constable. They questioned both, and told them the report they had heard, and these two officers can verify the enquiry. They had heard nothing, however. The reporters again went over the ground, but found nothing. They then returned and reported. In fact, it is a certainty that on Sunday morning a murdered and mutilated body was reported as having been found in Backchurchlane, and that exactly such a body was found yesterday morning.

    The matter was passed over as unimportant on Sunday and Monday. The moment that the body was found yesterday, however, the events of Sunday morning loomed up with a significance rather colossal, and a hunt began for John Cleary, of 21, White Horseyard, Drury-lane. Mr. John Cleary, however, was not known at No. 21, or anywhere else in White Horse-yard, Drury-lane. The house is a four-storey one. The street floor is vacant, the first and second floors are occupied by families, and the top floor by a widow woman with two children. The widow woman was confident that no young man by the name of John Cleary either lived in the house or had ever lived there.' The people in every house in White Horseyard were questioned under circumstances which disposed them to tell all they knew, but nobody had ever heard the name of John Cleary, and everybody said that no man of that name could have lived there without their knowing it, which was quite true. It became evident, therefore, that the man had given a false address, and in all probability a false name, as such a precaution in the matter of residence would scarcely have been taken, and the precaution as to name neglected.

    "Cleary's" description, however, had been carefully taken. He was a young man, apparently between twenty-five and twenty-eight years of age. He was short, his height being about 5 ft. 4in. He was of medium build, and weighed about 140 lb. He was light-complexioned, had a small fair moustache and blue eyes. On his left cheek was an inflamed spot, which looked as if a boil had lately been there and was healing. He wore a dark coat and waistcoat. His shirt was not seen, the space at the throat being covered by a dirty white handkerchief tied about his neck. His trousers were dark velveteen, so soiled at the knees as to indicate that he blacked shoes. His hat was a round, black, stiff felt. He walked with a shuffle and spoke in the usual fashion of the developing citizens of Whitechapel, whom, in all respects, he resembled.

    It is thus certain that there was an intention on the part of the party or parties who had the body in keeping to place it in Backchurch-lane Saturday night, where it was found yesterday. If coincidences be of any value, it may be noted that this was the anniversary of the Hanbury-street murder. It is beyond doubt that "Cleary" got wind of the scheme, if he was not one of the principals. That the original intention was not carried out would indicate that he was an outsider acquainted with the project, who hoped to profit by it. There seems to be no reason to doubt that the body was not found by the police until yesterday morning, and that it was placed there a short time before seems reasonably sure. Nevertheless, "John Cleary," whoever he may be, must know all about the mystery, and is certainly the most valuable man in the purview of the police at the present time."


    Cheers
    Last edited by Michael W Richards; 04-05-2015, 03:07 PM.

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    Hi Michael,

    Hope all is well with you!

    I have been referring to this here in different threads on this forum as well as the JTR forum. The description provided in this article actually describes John Arnold. If you look at other references to this story you will see a completely different description of the man thought to be John Cleary. Cleary's name surfaced on two separate occasions. Well three if you count the fact that Arnold claimed he gave the name 'John Kemp' and not 'John Cleary' to the Herald when he reported the body that wasn't there yet. The other two are the graffitti 'John Cleary is a fool' on a wall near the crime scene and from a Mr. Miller who described John Cleary as an ex-compositor for The Globe who 4 months prior to the Pinchin Torso discovery was living at 2, Savoy Buildings, Strand. Miller described the Cleary he knew as 6ft, bald, hair and moustache dark. This same Mr. Miller found the thigh of Elizabeth Jackson in a garden on the embankment.

    John Arnold, however, in my opinion fits the description of 'blotchy man' and was in reality the man the hunt was on for after he disappeared shortly after his announcement of the body in Back-Church Lane. Arnold lived a 2, Harvey's Building, Strand which is very near 2, Savoy Buildings. Both addresses are practically on the Victorian Embankment and also, incidentally, a block or so away from the office of LeGrand of the Strand. One other coincidence with the address at Harvey's Building is one William Wallace Brodie lived at the very same address of 2, Harvey's Building, Strand up until July of 1889 when he admitted to being Jack the Ripper and killing Alice McKenzie(which he did not). Subsequently he was re-arrested for another charge and according to Debra Arif was incarcerated most likely until December 1889.(see John Arnold thread on jtrforums.com)

    John Cleary may or may not be involved in this case. Why his name showed up on a wall near where a dead body was discovered a few days after it was reported is a mystery. I personally think John Cleary and John Arnold are two separate individuals yet somehow connected to the crime.
    Last edited by jerryd; 04-05-2015, 03:38 PM.

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    • #3
      Rocky Sullivan pointed out in another thread the fact that the Whitehall Torso was found with a partial piece of an Echo newspaper dated the day Martha Tabram's inquest was reported in the news. John Arnold was a news vendor working at Charing Cross. If John Cleary was a real person (and I think he was) that worked for The Globe, John Arnold would possibly have reason to communicate with him being a news-vendor himself.

      I find that fact to be rather curious.
      Last edited by jerryd; 04-05-2015, 04:02 PM. Reason: added last line first paragraph

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        The interesting thing about William Wallace Brodie is he was released from a long prison term and showed up in London in August of 1888. He left for South Africa in September of 1888 returning in July (going off memory) 1889.

        While in South Africa he made the same confession as when he admitted to killing McKenzie and that was that he killed nine women and the last one troubled him.

        In one press report the following was quoted,"When the prisoner was brought up at the last sessions he behaved in a very violent manner, and stated that he was one of the Whitechapel murderers."

        My question is this, could John Arnold, John Cleary and William Brodie be working together?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jerryd View Post
          Rocky Sullivan pointed out in another thread the fact that the Whitehall Torso was found with a partial piece of an Echo newspaper dated the day Martha Tabram's inquest was reported in the news. John Arnold was a news vendor working at Charing Cross. If John Cleary was a real person (and I think he was) that worked for The Globe, John Arnold would possibly have reason to communicate with him being a news-vendor himself.

          I find that fact to be rather curious.
          Another strange thing is the paper from the previous year. As a news vendor Arnold has a profession that might explain the possession of a year old paper. I can't think of too many that would although I'm sure there are some, news vendor certainly tops the list especially if he was previously a news vendor (in 1887 when the paper was from?)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jerryd View Post
            The interesting thing about William Wallace Brodie is he was released from a long prison term and showed up in London in August of 1888. He left for South Africa in September of 1888 returning in July (going off memory) 1889.

            While in South Africa he made the same confession as when he admitted to killing McKenzie and that was that he killed nine women and the last one troubled him.

            In one press report the following was quoted,"When the prisoner was brought up at the last sessions he behaved in a very violent manner, and stated that he was one of the Whitechapel murderers."

            My question is this, could John Arnold, John Cleary and William Brodie be working together?
            One of the whitechapel murders now that's interesting as most false confessions probably were more like "I'm Jack the Ripper" not I'm one of...very telling in light of his connection to arnold. Your on to something.

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            • #7
              The Mr. Miller I have been referring to is actually a Star reporter named Claude Mellor. He found the thigh of Elizabeth Jackson in the garden on the Chelsea Embankment at the home of Sir Percy Shelley, Mary Shelley's son. The home was being rented out at the time.

              It was this same Mr. Mellor that announced the name of John Cleary, ex-compositor for the Globe, that might be the man they needed to be looking for. Whether that was due to the graffitii written on the wall with Cleary's name or Mellor knew more about this guy, I'm not clear on yet.

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