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[The Baron]

In some books it is stated that Scotland yard Metro had known who the ripper was. People like Swanson Abberline etc. In your opinions is this valid and if so the list of suspects would be short instead of the wide range of suspects. just curious as a sidebar everybook I read seems so convincing and yet I am more confused than ever. How far off am I to think that jtr is not a name we have heard of. thanks for your advanced input

There was an eyewitness, and there was an
identification.

What left are circles, smoke, and mirrors


The Baron

[John Wheat]

What are you saying / suggesting?

It's some guff about a particular surgeon bumping off victims and something about blackmail. With absolutely nothing to back it up.

[FISHY1118]

What are you saying / suggesting?

[DJA]

Nobody except the C5 ever saw or knew who the Ripper was.

Try telling that to Eddowes after her next door neighbor was murdered.

[GBinOz]

Here's what some of the police thought.

MeNaughton's views were anything but universal.

* Abberline dismissed Kosminski and Druitt as suspects. He favored George Chapman, but said nobody knew for sure.
* Littlechild favored Tumblety and appears to have dismissed all of McNaughton's suspects.
* Smith said none of the police knew who the Ripper was and specifically dismissed Kosminski.
* Reid thought there were 9 victims killed between 1888 and 1892. That appears to dismiss Kosminki and definitely dismissed Druitt. In 1912 he said nobody knew who the Ripper was, specifically dismissing all of McNaughton's suspects.
* Arnold though there were only 4 victims.
* Dew thought that Emma Smith and Martha Tabram were Ripper victims. He had no suspect.

Most other police did not say how many victims they thought there were.

Hi Fiver,

Of those you have named, Abberline and Reid were the experienced "feet on the ground" experts, Reid possibly more so as Abberline was "imported" for the task. Of Reid's nine victims, no one knows if they were all by the same hand, or the distribution if they were not.

Cheers, George

[thewoo1]

thankyou fiver that post very informative and amazing in how different the views

[Fiver]

Here's what some of the police thought.

MeNaughton's views were anything but universal.

* Abberline dismissed Kosminski and Druitt as suspects. He favored George Chapman, but said nobody knew for sure.
* Littlechild favored Tumblety and appears to have dismissed all of McNaughton's suspects.
* Smith said none of the police knew who the Ripper was and specifically dismissed Kosminski.
* Reid thought there were 9 victims killed between 1888 and 1892. That appears to dismiss Kosminki and definitely dismissed Druitt. In 1912 he said nobody knew who the Ripper was, specifically dismissing all of McNaughton's suspects.
* Arnold though there were only 4 victims.
* Dew thought that Emma Smith and Martha Tabram were Ripper victims. He had no suspect.

Most other police did not say how many victims they thought there were.

[FISHY1118]

Nobody except the C5 ever saw or knew who the Ripper was.

[thewoo1]

130 plus years the greatest crime mystery still discussed by people around the world. Opinions so varied and speculative that no one can come to conclusion as each has,some merit for most part.. Everyone looking for a open door to the truth

[thewoo1]

Your two different opinions make this a crime we are still discussing....amazing !

[John Wheat]

No they had very little idea who the Ripper was.

[DJA]

I have no doubt that Major Henry Smith knew.

Ditto Abberline.

Doubt it was a big secret in certain circles like the medical profession.

[thewoo1]

In some books it is stated that Scotland yard Metro had known who the ripper was. People like Swanson Abberline etc. In your opinions is this valid and if so the list of suspects would be short instead of the wide range of suspects. just curious as a sidebar everybook I read seems so convincing and yet I am more confused than ever. How far off am I to think that jtr is not a name we have heard of. thanks for your advanced input