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Originally posted by The Rookie DetectiveView Post
I don't believe there should be a "0" for Access to murder sites, because it would need to encompass ALL of the murders, and there's no evidence to suggest that all of the victims were murdered by the same hand.
Astute observation RD. Of the 15 Whitechapel murders, Jack is being attributed with 5 +/_ 1 or 2. So the majority are postulated as being committed by one or more other perps.
Cheers, George
The angels keep their ancient places—turn but a stone and start a wing!
'Tis ye, 'tis your estrangèd faces, that miss the many-splendored thing.
Francis Thompson.
Re Feigenbaum
Here is a quote from William Lawton the lawyer who represented him throughout his incarceration for the murder he committed in The USA
So what did Lawton reveal?He stated, “One night I stayed talking with him for over two hours and during this time, he told me, “I have for years suffered from a singular disease which induces an all absorbing passion, this passion manifests itself in a desire to kill and mutilate every woman who falls in my way. At such times I am unable to control myself” Lawton went on to say, “I began to search Feigenbaum’s record. I learned that he was in Wisconsin at the time the country was startled by the news of the murder and mutilation of several women there, when I saw him again I mentioned the Whitechapel murders to which he replied, “The lord was responsible for my acts, and that to him only could I confess.” I was so startled that for the moment I did not know what to do I then looked up the dates of the Whitechapel murders and selected two. When I saw Feigenbaum again and was talking with him I said: "Carl, were you in London from this date to that one," naming those selected. "Yes", he answered.
Assistant District Attorney Vernon M. Davis, who prosecuted Feigenbaum, said: “If it were proved that Feigenbaum was 'Jack the Ripper' it would not greatly surprise me, because I always considered him a cunning fellow, surrounded by a great deal of mystery, and his life history was never found out.
The results of my in-depth investigation into Feigenbaum can be found in my book -"Jack The Ripper-The Real Truth" https://bit.ly/4h1IlnW
So Feigenbaum was given two dates by Lawton and when he asked Feigenbaum about those dates his memory was good enough to recall where he was on those specific dates but…when Lawton himself had checked Feigenbaum’s record he had found that he was in Wisconsin at the time of the murders.
So we’ve gone from not being able to show that Feigenbaum was in England at the time to have someone who was there telling us that the record said that he wasn’t.
Herlock Sholmes
”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”
So Feigenbaum was given two dates by Lawton and when he asked Feigenbaum about those dates his memory was good enough to recall where he was on those specific dates but…when Lawton himself had checked Feigenbaum’s record he had found that he was in Wisconsin at the time of the murders.
So we’ve gone from not being able to show that Feigenbaum was in England at the time to have someone who was there telling us that the record said that he wasn’t.
I think you need to read my original post on this issue and not be in a hurry to dismiss the contents
The reference you so hurriedly referred to was in relation to the Wisconsin murders !!!!!!!!!!!!
This still leaves the uncomfortable position of having a man who we cannot place with evidence in London at the time though Trevor. What would prevent us finding a French murder of the time and saying “well, it would have been no problem for him to have crossed the channel.”
Herlock Sholmes
”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”
I can only say that I haven't previously been aware of the offenses that you cite except for his stabbing two women in the buttocks. From this dissertation by Cristopher Morley:
"He soon escaped, and was at liberty for four days, taking with him a knife which he used to stab Florence Grace Johnson in the buttocks, and also attempted to do the same to Isabella Frazer Anderson, in Kennington. These crimes appeared to be imitations of a criminal called Colicott, who a couple of months previous had stabbed six young women in the behind with a pointed awl"
Cheers, George
Those are the same women George. Morley has mistakenly said that they were in the buttocks but the doctor who actually examined the women said that they were in the lower back. I’m going to have a bit of a read up on Colicott because it appears there there was some confusion, after the events, between the two.
Herlock Sholmes
”I don’t know who Jack the Ripper was…and neither do you.”
Originally posted by The Rookie DetectiveView Post
Deeming would score a 1, because it's often argued he was abroad, but this can't be conclusively proven.
I think it has been proven that he was in England at the time. The issue is that he can't be proven to have been in the London area at the time. In that respect, he's similar to Druitt, who also was in England but not necessarily in London. A difference is that there's more information about Druitt's whereabouts than those of Deeming.
This still leaves the uncomfortable position of having a man who we cannot place with evidence in London at the time though Trevor. What would prevent us finding a French murder of the time and saying “well, it would have been no problem for him to have crossed the channel.”
But we can Feigenbaum was in London on the date Frances Coles was killed !!!!!!!!!!!
And may I remind you that he confessed to his lawyer that he was in London on other dates of some of the other murders
But we can Feigenbaum was in London on the date Frances Coles was killed !!!!!!!!!!!
Obviously it’s not proof that he was in London just because he worked for a shipping company that had ships in London at the time but you say that you can prove that he was in London in 1891. You say in your book that you had seen a list: “which showed a Carl Feigenbaum was still employed by this merchant line, and he was in London on one of their ships in 1891” Why didn’t you show the list proving that he was in London in 1891?
And may I remind you that he confessed to his lawyer that he was in London on other dates of some of the other murders
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