Jack had a fine singing voice?

[celee]

Hi,

I am reading the The Bell Tower by Robert Graysmith. In the book Graysmith claims that Jack was heard singing and that he had a fine singing voice. I have never seen were any witness claimed to hear Jack sing. Can any one tell me were Graysmith gets this information from.

Your friend, Brad

[Robert]

Brad, I've no idea. Maybe it's a mix-up with Kelly, or even Kate or Liz.

It does I suppose give a boost to the foreign sailor theory - someone who'd feel at home on the high C's.

[paul emmett]

The only singing I've come across in this case is Cox hearing Kelley sing between 11:45 and 1:10. And I've heard people here wondering if it was MJK or JTR. I've just never heard that it was a fine voice.

Good luck.

[Robert]

There was singing at the Berner St club. Kate I believe had a reputation for singing.

There was a JTR novel in which the Ripper sang opera while mutilating Kelly, but I won't spoil anyone's enjoyment of it by saying who wrote the novel or who this "Ripper" was.

[Sam Flynn]

Scoop!

Following this link will allow you to hear an actual recording of Jack singing on that fateful night.

Please excuse the poor sound quality.

[paul emmett]

Good point, Robert. And since some feel that JTR was a member of that club, all we'd have to show was that on Sept. 30, 1888, they were singing well.

Good song, Sam. No excuses necessary. Was it Jack or Alvin?

[Robert]

This of course was an early wax cylinder recording. On the flip side (inside of the cylinder) Jack can be heard intoning "Mary had a little lamb - I saw her dinner in her tummy."

[Sam Flynn]

Good song, Sam. No excuses necessary. Was it Jack or Alvin?

It was me, on helium

On a less frivolous point, this link is to a snippet of a popular inspirational song ("Ale Brider" - Yiddish, "All Brothers"). The music and lyrics were written by none other than Morris Winchevsky, socialist, poet and publisher of the Arbeter Fraint at the Berner Street Club.

[Robert]

I thought Ale Brider was a Clint Eastwood film.

I wonder if they had musical instruments at that club. I don't see why not.

Robert

[Sam Flynn]

I thought Ale Brider was a Clint Eastwood film.

You're thinking of "Cohen's Bluff", Rob.

I wonder if they had musical instruments at that club. I don't see why not.

No doubt - there's that well-known drawing of someone singing at the Club, to piano accompaniment, for a start. I daresay that some members would have owned and played fiddles, tin whistles, accordions and clarinets as well.

[George Hutchinson]

I understand that Morris Eagle used to bring his Mini-Moog to the meetings and dress up like Rick Wakeman.

Brad - in answer to your question, I have a copy of THE BELL TOWER, which I haven't read, but I'm of the impression it's one of those poorly researched subjective and assumptive items that we've all come to know so well. I suspect the idea of JTR singing is, indeed, a mistake.

PHILIP

[Mike Covell]

This is the first I have ever heard of "Jack" singing, do we know what he is alleged to have actually sung?

It is my gut feeling that this is one of those myths born from a misunderstanding similar to John Plimmer and the blood filled wineglass!!

[Sam Flynn]

I understand that Morris Eagle used to bring his Mini-Moog to the meetings and dress up like Rick Wakeman.

...I'd have paid seriously good money to see that! He probably wrote better tunes, too.

[George Hutchinson]

Mike - don't forget the tour guide (De Locksley, maybe?) who brings out a bag of cashew nuts.

PHILIP

[Sam Flynn]

Mike - don't forget the tour guide who brings out a bag of cashew nuts.

Never! (Speechless )