Sir George Arthur

[Barrister]

Colleagues,
Sir George Arthur was born in 1860 and became the 3rd Baronet Arthur of Upper Canada. Forgive a question by a non-aristocrat, but does this mean he was born in Canada? If not, does anyone know where he was born? Does anyone know how he satisfied the authorities that he was not JtR? I understand he was slumming in Whitechapel. Does anyone know the name or address of his lodging place?
Many thanks for any help you can provide.
Barrister

[Paddy]

Sir George Arthur

Hi Barrister.

Sir George C A Arthur was son of Sir Frederick L Arthur and his wife Elizabeth. He was born and raised in Paddington / Marylebone area and in 1871 was an Officer in the 2nd Reg of Life Guards at St Pancras, London.

In 1888 he was living at 28 Tite street which is in the Cheyne district of Kensington and Chelsea (very up-market area). He was living with William Young and Charles Goble Champion.



Pat.............................

[Phil Carter]

Hello Barrister,

Further titbits..

Sir George Compton Archibald Arthur, MVO, 3rd Baronet (1860–1946) of Upper Canada (1841)

As Paddy has said,
Sir Frederick Leopold Arthur, 2nd Baronet (20 December 1816 – 1 June 1878). He was born in Plymouth, the son of Sir George Arthur, 1st Baronet, and Eliza Smith. He had a military career, and became a colonel. He succeeded to the baronetcy in 1854. He married Lady Elizabeth Hay-Drummond (daughter of the Earl of Kinnoull), on 24 April 1856.

They had three children: Frederica Louisa Juliana Arthur who married Alfred Darby, (she died 23 March 1946);
Sir George Compton Archibald Arthur, 3rd Baronet;
Captain Leonard Robert Sunkersett Arthur, CMG (23 December 1864 – 13 December 1903), died unmarried.

The current baronetcy (7th Baronetcy) is unfilled, and vacant, for the person concerned is yet to prove his succession.

(sources:-Official Role of the Baronetage, Wikipedia)


Sir George Arthur, KCH, 1st Baronet (1784–1854)

Sir Frederick Leopold Arthur, 2nd Baronet (20 December 1816 – 1 June 1878).

Sir George Compton Archibald Arthur, MVO, 3rd Baronet (1860–1946)
Sir George Malcolm Arthur, 4th Baronet (1908–1949)
Sir Basil Malcolm Arthur, 5th Baronet (1928–1985)
Sir Stephen John Arthur, 6th Baronet (1953–2010)
Sir Benjamin Nathan Arthur, presumed 7th Baronet (born 1979)
However, the Heir presumptive is Sir Gavyn Arthur (born 1951), judge and former Lord Mayor of London. He is the second cousin twice-removed of the 7th Baronet.

Interestingly, with one very notable exception, our man the third Baronet, there seems to be many with shorter lifespans within this family.

A question. Where did you find the information that he was slumming in Whitechapel? I would be interested to see this. Thank you!



Phil

[Phil Carter]

Further to the above from Leigh Rayment's list of baronets...


Sir George Compton Archibald Arthur, 3rd baronet



'The most intense amusement has been caused among all classes of the London world by the arrest last week of little Sir George Arthur on suspicion of being the Whitechapel murderer. Sir George is a young baronet, holding a captaincy in the Royal House [Horse?]Guards, and is a member of most of the leading clubs in town. He is also a well-known amateur actor, and was a great friend of the late Prince Leopold, Duke of Albany. Since the past few weeks, the old mania for 'slumming' in Whitechapel has become fashionable again. Every night scores of young men who have never been to the East End before in their lives prowl round the neighbourhood in which the murders were committed, talking with the frightened women and pushing their way into overcrowded lodging-houses. So long as any two men keep together, and do not make a nuisance of themselves, the police do not interfere with them. But if a man goes alone and tries to lure a woman off the street into a secluded corner to talk with her, he is pretty sure to get into trouble. That was the case with Sir George Arthur. He put on an old shooting coat, a slouch hat, and went down to Whitechapel for a little fun. He got it. It occurred to two policemen that Sir George answered very much the description of Jack the Ripper. They watched him, and when they saw him talking with women they proceeded to collar him. He protested, expostulated, and threatened them with the vengeance of Royal wrath, but in vain. Finally, a chance was given him to send to a fashionable western [West End?] club to prove his identity, and he was released with profuse apologies for the mistake. The affair was kept out of the newspapers. But the jolly young Baronet's friends at Brook's Club considered the joke too good to be kept quiet.

'Sir George is quite a figure in his way in London. He is a son of the late Sir Frederick Arthur, who was an influential man in his day. Sir George was conspicuous on the turf a few years ago, and was intimately associated with the Dowager Duchess of Montrose. He then turned his attention to theatricals, and when the Bancrofts produced 'Fedora' they allowed Sir George to appear as the corpse.'

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Which may answer my previous question?

sources: Tuapeka Times, Leigh Rayment's list of baronets.




Phil

[miss marple]

Well, so the young toffs invaded Whitechapel AFTER the Whitechapel murders.
The murders seemed to have temporarily made Whitechapel an object of fascination.I imagine they behaved like members of the Bullingdon club, braying about the streets/ being offensive to the locals and poking their noses in where not wanted.

Hooray Henrys

Miss Marple

[Cogidubnus]

Hi Paddy

Sir George Arthur was an officer in the second regiment of Lifeguards in 1871, having been born in 1860? Not impossible by any means in (much) earlier years, but unlikely I'd have thought at such a late date...something is surely wrong here?

All the best

Dave

[caz]

Well, so the young toffs invaded Whitechapel AFTER the Whitechapel murders.

Since the past few weeks, the old mania for 'slumming' in Whitechapel has become fashionable again.

So not only after the murders, Miss M, but fashionable previously as well. And 'mania' implies more than the odd chinless twit or two indulged. I wonder what started it all and how old was 'old'?

Love,

Caz
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