Lechmere versus Richardson.

[FrankO]

The overriding factor in my doubting of the testimony of Richardson, Long and Cadosch is that I don't believe that the ripper would have killed Chapman at or after 5:30 in broad daylight.

Hi George,

I, for one, am not so sure about this. As per the evidence, the spot where Nichols was killed seems to have been very dark indeed. The fact that he only waited 8 days before he killed his next victim, may well be an indication of how strong his desire was to kill again and maybe because of the darkness of the crime spot in Buck's Row and, possibly, her clothes/stays having hindered him to some extent, he waited, in Chapman's case, to strike until it was getting light. Or he may have been so fixated on killing and mutilating a woman that night, but just hadn't been able to find a suitable victim any earlier.

Cheers,
Frank

[The Baron]

Richardson is better suspect than anyone from family Lechmere altogether.

Lechmere found a body and informed the police.

But there is a good possibility, that Richardson was there with a body, and didn't inform anyone, + he gave a shaky story.

He went to feed a rabbit!!!!

Where was that rabbit?! Do rabbits need the carrot to be cut in order to eat them?!



The Baron

[Trevor Marriott]

light enough for richardson to be able to check the cellar door from several feet away and to cut something off his shoe. in other words more than light enough to see chapmans body at his feet if she had been there.

so says the meteorological and lighting expert

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[Abby Normal]

But how light/dark was it at 4.45am ?

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light enough for richardson to be able to check the cellar door from several feet away and to cut something off his shoe. in other words more than light enough to see chapmans body at his feet if she had been there.

[Trevor Marriott]

I have done this exercise to check on wildlife eating our plants and 40 minutes after "getting light, but I could see all over the place", it was broad daylight. At the time designated as sunrise it is very bright. But I live in Australia and it may be different in the higher latitude of London.

Cheers, George

But how light/dark was it at 4.45am ?

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[GBinOz]

Well make up your own mind as to how light/dark it was based on 5.25am sunrise maybe try waking up at 4.45am and see how light/dark it is will give us a better idea

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I have done this exercise to check on wildlife eating our plants and 40 minutes after "getting light, but I could see all over the place", it was broad daylight. At the time designated as sunrise it is very bright. But I live in Australia and it may be different in the higher latitude of London.

Cheers, George

[Trevor Marriott]

John Richardson, of John-street, Spitalfields, market porter, said: I assist my mother in her business. I went to 29, Hanbury-street, between 4,45 a.m. and 4.50 a.m. on Saturday last.
[Coroner] Was it light? - It was getting light, but I could see all over the place.

Well make up your own mind as to how light/dark it was based on 5.25am sunrise maybe try waking up at 4.45am and see how light/dark it is will give us a better idea

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[GBinOz]

and dark when Richardson say he was in the yard

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John Richardson, of John-street, Spitalfields, market porter, said: I assist my mother in her business. I went to 29, Hanbury-street, between 4,45 a.m. and 4.50 a.m. on Saturday last.
[Coroner] Was it light? - It was getting light, but I could see all over the place.

[Trevor Marriott]

Thanks Trevor.

So if Chapman was killed at the time that Cadosch heard noises from the yard it would still have been dark?

and dark when Richardson say he was in the yard

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[Herlock Sholmes]

5.25am

Thanks Trevor.

So if Chapman was killed at the time that Cadosch heard noises from the yard it would still have been dark?

[Trevor Marriott]

What time was sunrise in 1888?

5.25am

[Trevor Marriott]

If McKenzie and Coles are dismissed as JtR victims, then consistency demands that Stride also be dismissed.

Cheers, George

I dont think Stride was a Ripper victim

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[Herlock Sholmes]

What time was sunrise in 1888?

[GBinOz]

In the grand scheme of things you cannot dismiss McKenzie or Coles because their murders are in line with the murders of the earlier victims
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If McKenzie and Coles are dismissed as JtR victims, then consistency demands that Stride also be dismissed.

Cheers, George

[Trevor Marriott]

Im guessing no such order was given regarding chapman and then eddowes huh ?...... how convenient.

In the case of Eddowes the police conveyed the body to the mortuary accompanied by Dr Brown the body was stripped but no medical examination took place at that time that took place 12 hours later.

In the case of Chapman the body was conveyed to the mortuary by the police and the doctor came back some 12 hours later to carry out the post mortem.
I have stated previoulsy that two differnet methods of extraction of the uteri were carried out, two different mortuaries figured in all of this, that to me shows two differnet persons extarcted the organs.

It is well documented of the body dealers and their activites, and there involvemnt with mortuary keepers in securing body parts.

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