Could the Ripper have been a Policeman?

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  • Monty
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    Originally posted by Monty View Post
    I'd be intetrested to know where Mrs Pearce fits in to all this, and their son.
    "Of course, before one gets too excited over Watkins, please to recall the apron piece and Goulston street."

    To be fair, I don't think anyone with a sound knowledge of the case and Police procedure (which has clearly been overlooked) would be getting 'too excited' over this suggestion.

    Monty
    Just in case it was missed.

    Monty

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  • RavenDarkendale
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    Hi Lynn

    Serial killers seem to have no real motive, even when they have patterns based on stressers and past experiences.

    It would take motive for Pearce to have become involved, I quite agree. Blackmail would do it if Pearce had a secret that JtR knew about and could hold over his head...

    Big if, there...

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  • lynn cates
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    motives

    Hello Mike. Thanks.

    Some motives are believable; some not.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Michael W Richards
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    Just to explain my comments about room 13...since there was furniture blocking the door when it was opened, it might indicate that someone moved it when they entered the room via the window...which we are told were locked. Might mean someone left it there when they left by the window, again the window lock issue...so I believe the evidence as it is suggests the killer left the latch off and the door just locked behind him.

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  • Michael W Richards
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    Hello all,

    I would think that if the killer or killers of any of the Canonicals was a policeman he would have had some distinct advantages over the general man on the street..certainly in terms of gaining trust with a proposed victim and the local constabulary behavioral knowledge. Perhaps even in subduing someone silently and quickly.

    That doesnt make a policeman a likely candidate though. I do wonder about the possibility of police "tampering", possibly in the case of the apron section and perhaps in Room 13, when the room was supposed to have remained shut for a few hours before being forced open, but I havent seen a sound reason for considering a copper for any of the Canonical murders.

    There are a few street policemen I might look somewhat sideways at....Pearce with his birds eye view of the actual murder site, Watkins and/or Harvey,... I havent heard or read a reasonable explanation for Halse, Marriott and Outram to be searching city streets near Mitre that night....and as I mentioned, I have my doubts that Room 13 remained shut from the time Bowyer and McCarthy brought the police into the court until it was officially opened around 1:30pm...I suspect many of them, particularly the senior staff, of secrecy and secret agendas, for sure....but not much else with respect to the street level cop and possible murderers.

    I like the comments Lynn made regarding possible murder motives, ...greed, lust, jealousy, hatred, for profit, to silence, ....the regular everyday motives seem most probable to me in most of the Canonicals...and perhaps Terrorism and Serial or random multiple murder, 2 less common motives, might make up the difference.

    Cheers

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi Lynn,

    Who is Number One?

    Judging by his adoring and unquestioning fan-base, I would say it was Jack.

    Regards,

    Simon

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  • Robert
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    "Who is number one?"

    You are number six.

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  • lynn cates
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    #1

    Hello Robert, Simon, Chris. Thanks.

    Yes, yes--but WHO is number one?

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • ChrisGeorge
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    Patrick McGoohan RIP.

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  • Simon Wood
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    Greetings From the Village

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    Be seeing you.

    Simon

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  • Robert
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    Hi Lynn

    No, it wasn't the one who got locked up in a village.

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  • lynn cates
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    Danger Man

    Hello Robert. Thanks.

    That all depends which John Drake you refer to. (heh-heh)

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    accomplice

    Hello Robert. Thanks.

    "Bit of blood? The killer put his hands right inside Eddowes."

    Yes, but that was post mortem--the heart had ceased.

    "Yes he could say "I just discovered the body. I got my hands rather bloody because I touched it. Oh, and I found this knife lying on the pavement." Taking a bit of a chance, though."

    Indeed.

    "Why would Watkins want to make it look like a Ripper murder? That was the one way of making sure that the police threw everything at the investigation, with Watkins in the spotlight."

    But, in retrospect, no one seems to have mentioned him. So, was he in the spotlight after all? London was intent on a crazed killer, and a crazed killer they saw.

    "Your point about the apron piece is still valid of course...."

    Thanks. I think of it as the fatal flaw. Unless explained away . . .

    " . . . unless he had an accomplice who dumped the piece for him."

    You refer to Halse? Any motive for this? Just before the killing, Outram and Marriott could vouch for him.

    "But if you're killing someone to shut them up, the last thing you need is an accomplice."

    Precisely.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Robert
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    Hi Lynn

    I think someone called John Drake did just that. But I seem to remember it was a wind-up.

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  • lynn cates
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    giant invisible rabbit kills Kate

    Hello Neil. Thanks. Just waiting for someone to suggest Harvey. (heh-heh)

    Cheers.
    LC

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