Could the Ripper have been a Policeman?

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  • lynn cates
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    burnt clothing

    Hello Neil. Thanks.

    "PC Pearce was also reprimanded for burning his cape whilst hanging it over a fire to dry"

    What? Burnt his clothing? Hmm, just like Miller's Court.

    Case closed. (heh-heh)

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Sally
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    Pearce went to bed before his wife, she joining him later after leaving a lamp on and upon the windowsill, which was slighly open.
    The lamp in the window, presumably, would have made seeing anything outside more difficult.

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  • Monty
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Raven. Thanks.

    If I recall properly, Pearce was married. And married men are particularly adept at tuning out noise. (heh-heh)

    Cheers.
    LC
    PC Pearce was married with children, one of which was described as 'imbecilic'. Pearce went to bed before his wife, she joining him later after leaving a lamp on and upon the windowsill, which was slighly open.

    I feel the lamp was used incase their disabled son needed tending to.

    PC Pearce was also reprimanded for burning his cape whilst hanging it over a fire to dry and ordered to cover the laundry costs for bedding he soiled.

    Monty

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  • RavenDarkendale
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    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
    Hi Raven,

    Thank you.

    Is there a special reason you attached that link?

    Regards,

    Simon
    To show where I found that Pearce did indeed live at 3 Mitre Square

    Raven

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  • Jason
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    the quiet month of october also coincided with dual patrols of officers i believe......after a quiet few weeks perhaps they loosened this dual patrol and he suddenly became free to engage in his favourite pastime ? just a suggestion .......also dark and heavy material uniforms might have been quite handy when trying to hide blood staining on your person. I have always liked this theory, it may have its flaws ( which one doesnt ? ), but its still nonetheless worth talking about.

    The pattern of killings, ie towards weekend/weekend might lend itself to a pattern of his work shift .......as we have seen in the recent past, police are good at covering for themselves so who is to say it wasnt known and concluded by the police with a promise of no further word said about it ?

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  • RavenDarkendale
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Raven. Thanks.

    If I recall properly, Pearce was married. And married men are particularly adept at tuning out noise. (heh-heh)

    Cheers.
    LC
    True, it helps us sleep through snoring! LOL!

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  • lynn cates
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    oblivious

    Hello Raven. Thanks.

    If I recall properly, Pearce was married. And married men are particularly adept at tuning out noise. (heh-heh)

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi Raven,

    Thank you.

    Is there a special reason you attached that link?

    Regards,

    Simon

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  • RavenDarkendale
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    Well, I give just my own opinion to anything JtR related, but the timing of the Mitre Square murder\mutilation is cutting it very close. This was the most extensive mutilation to date, and we are given a timetable of constable beats, where they were, how often walked. Watkins comes through, no body. In less than 15 minutes he is back, severely mutilated body, killer already vanished.

    @Simon Wood

    At 1.45am on 30th September 1888 PC Watkins found the body of Catherine Eddowes in Mitre Square.



    "It is probable that he made his escape via the adjacent St James’s Place where there was a Metropolitan Fire Escape Station. Yet the firemen on duty had seen or heard nothing. Neither had City Police Constable Richard Pearse who lived at number 3 Mitre Square, where his bedroom window looked across at the murder site. "

    @Lynn

    You are right, of course, that my post was off focus in speculating on blackmail of policemen. Still you gotta wonder why Pearce, whom according to the above quotation, had his own bedroom window overlook the murder site heard nothing neither say nothing...

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  • Supe
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    Lynn,

    s/he had better have a good explanation for the apron piece on Goulston street.

    Sssh. Wouldn't want to excite Mr. Marriott.

    Don.

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  • lynn cates
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    outre

    Hello Neil. No, couldn't be missed.

    Can't even find a coherent outre theory that fits with Pearce.

    And, as I said above, if anyone wishes to promote Watkins, s/he had better have a good explanation for the apron piece on Goulston street.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    spirit

    Hello Raven. Thanks.

    "Blackmail would do it if Pearce had a secret that JtR knew about and could hold over his head..."

    Very well. But is not the line being pursued here a bit contrary to the spirit of "JTR"? If you are bringing in the police and believable motives, why bother with "JTR"?

    Cheers.
    LC
    Last edited by lynn cates; 09-19-2012, 09:12 PM.

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  • Simon Wood
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    Hi Michael,

    Richard Pearce, 922 City of London Police, wasn't on Abberline's team, which was formed following the double-event.

    As far as I am able to ascertain the police officer in question was Sergeant A. Pearce, H Division, based at Leman Street.

    There are a couple of non-Ripper references to him in The Times.

    Regards,

    Simon
    Last edited by Simon Wood; 09-19-2012, 07:32 PM. Reason: spolling mistook

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  • Michael W Richards
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    Originally posted by Monty View Post
    Just in case it was missed.

    Monty
    Hi Monty,

    Are you aware of any interview that quotes Mrs Pearce directly in reference to the crime that night? Do we have hard copy records of any statement she might have made?

    My question is obviously how do we know for certain that she was there that night...just the officers word? Seems to me rather a dismal spot to have your family in...a nearly deserted and poorly lit square.

    An aside....I read that of the small group Abberline formed to conduct interviews and investigate the crimes a Pearce was among them, do we have any data that matches these men?

    Cheers

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  • moonbegger
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    Originally posted by Robert View Post


    And why do it on his beat, the very part of London where he is known? If he was spotted, he'd have to abandon his beat and run through the streets in his uniform. Much better to do it off duty, in another place, and in plain clothes.
    There was also many plain clothes and undercover coppers patrolling the streets .. surely that would be a cast iron alibi for anyone who recognized him off his beat and out of uniform .

    moonbegger

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