The Ghost of Jack the Ripper

[clark2710]

Call me foolish but i was thinking on the thread i started regarding my curiosity of the ghosts of the victims but now i find myself wondering about the ghost of the killer himself. i wonder in whatever torment of his afterlife does some relic of his spirit get to roam about and since he's not one that's known would that mean that he's just a spirit no one can identify as the killer. So i ask this, does anyone know if any of the suspects are known to haunt their grave sites or other sites of their life? Just a random thought i had as i was surfing about the boards

[Rubyretro]

Hello Clark,

Well, if you google 'ghost ripper victim' first of all there is a film purporting to show the ghost of Mary Jane, but you have to pay to see it, and so I didn't bother.

I was sorely tempted though -the ad for the film claims that she looks just like
the 'Walter Sickert' painting and the dead body in the photos. As she could hardly be lying down in the non-existant room, but presumably walking around, my mind boggles.

Another site 'paranormal' something-or-other claims that the ghosts of all
victims have haunted their murder sites, in the autumn, the most common being Polly -who appears as a glowing body lying in the gutter.

Liz Stride and Catherine Eddowes also appear to be prone ghosts, and Liz screams.

Chapman was reported to have haunted her murder site, and in 1930 someone claimed to have heard her murder, but couldn't see anything in the yard. She was reported to wander about, headless, sometimes in the company of a man wearing a carman's apron.

Some entreprising publican once claimed that Chapman had taken up residence in his pub, accompanied by 'strong wind' ....well, with all the beer
that she must have regularly consumed, we must pardon her.

In the months after Kelly was killed her ghost was reported to enter her room,
dressed in black, and sit gazing out of the window. Presumably it was hard for her to impersonate a Sickert painting before it had been painted.

[clark2710]

Ok my first question is, and pardon my ignorance but, what is a carmon's apron? And is that the only sighting of what could be the killer himself?

[Rubyretro]

Ok my first question is, and pardon my ignorance but, what is a carmon's apron? And is that the only sighting of what could be the killer himself?

A 'carman' was someone who drove a cart used to deliver goods. He would have worn an apron.

But we are maybe leaping to concusions to imagine that the ghost was JTR -it might have been Annie's brother, or a friend..

[Cogidubnus]

She was reported to wander about, headless, sometimes in the company of a man wearing a carman's apron.

Hell's teeth...poor old Charles Cross even gets mugged by the paranormalists!


All the best

Dave

[Limehouse]

Was she really headless - or legless??

[lynn cates]

That's the spirit!

Hello Clark. See, you have uncovered one weakness in my theory that Jack was not a unique individual. Therefore, there must be multiple entities appearing after death.

I suppose my idea does not have a ghost of a chance.

Cheers.
LC

[Lechmere]

His ghost haunts tower hamlets cemetery in a carman's apron. That is a fact not conjecture.

[clark2710]

are there any news reports or anything on it Lechmere ?

[Lechmere]

I'm sure there was something in the East London Advertiser in the early 1980s, on the inside front cover if I remember correctly.

[Rubyretro]

are there any news reports or anything on it Lechmere ?

Clark -I think that it's cited in the 'Famous Ghosts of London' book. I believe that he looks as if he's searching for something behind the gravestones.

[Beowulf]

Call me foolish but i was thinking on the thread i started regarding my curiosity of the ghosts of the victims but now i find myself wondering about the ghost of the killer himself. i wonder in whatever torment of his afterlife does some relic of his spirit get to roam about and since he's not one that's known would that mean that he's just a spirit no one can identify as the killer. So i ask this, does anyone know if any of the suspects are known to haunt their grave sites or other sites of their life? Just a random thought i had as i was surfing about the boards

I had quoted on the ghost thread of the links to the ghosts of so many ripper victims, and when I had discovered that link found it to be really kind of amusing, not really believing in the factualness of it. Who knows, though maybe some or all are true.

They could be invented to drum up ghost tour business, too.

But I also thought about 'what about Jack'. Not much shown on that. It made me think that either in the afterworld if his spirit walks he has the same wary personality, careful not to reveal himself even in death, or he was so disturbed as to not be troubled by his crimes.

I admit I recognize these are just theories, there is no knowing.

[Beowulf]

Forgot to leave the link:

http://www.paranormaldatabase.com/reports/jacktheripper.php

[clark2710]

I had quoted on the ghost thread of the links to the ghosts of so many ripper victims, and when I had discovered that link found it to be really kind of amusing, not really believing in the factualness of it. Who knows, though maybe some or all are true.

They could be invented to drum up ghost tour business, too.

But I also thought about 'what about Jack'. Not much shown on that. It made me think that either in the afterworld if his spirit walks he has the same wary personality, careful not to reveal himself even in death, or he was so disturbed as to not be troubled by his crimes.

I admit I recognize these are just theories, there is no knowing.

Your post reminded me of something i saw regarding a completely unrelated case. Dutch Schultz, long story short, burried some treasure up in the catskills in New York, and to this day no one has been known to find it.....However a well known medium was said to have been sought after to contact Dutch himself in the spirit world to get a clue. The Medium did and said that Dutch simply said that if his treasure was found there's be no reason to talk of him anymore and he would be forgotten.
Even if the ghost of Jack the Ripper was widely believed to haunt here or there, i doubt he'd be forgotten, but that doesn't mean HE wouldn't see it that way....or maybe it is he is in life like he now is in death...enigmatic