Data Mining to locate the Ripper?

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  • thequestioner
    Cadet
    • Apr 2012
    • 4

    #1

    Data Mining to locate the Ripper?

    I am new to Ripper Research so I am possibly being naïve when I suggest data mining must offer tools not previously available so as to identify the Ripper.

    The one fact that is almost universally true of serial killers is they do not stop their killing spree until some outside factor intervenes.

    The Ripper’s killing spree was very intense, geographically very localised and stopped without obvious reason.

    So the question is; why did the killings so abruptly stop?

    Either the Ripper died, or he was arrested and imprisoned for some other offence, or he had some form of epiphany (e.g. got religion) or he was being controlled by some third party who ceased to have control over him.

    My question is: in seeking to identify the killer my question is; has any research been done to identify a man probably residing in the Spitalfields area, who during the month of December 1888 either, died, or was imprisoned for a lengthy period? The epiphany option would be much harder to identify but it would form the basis for further enquiry if no obvious candidate fitting the other alternatives could be found. The controlling hand of another also leads itself to an enquiry as to whether the controller died, was imprisoned etc.

    The tools are there to do this research.
  • Bridewell
    Commissioner
    • Apr 2011
    • 4039

    #2
    Hello there & welcome to Casebook.

    Such a process - probably a mammoth undertaking - might indeed unearth some additional suspects. I'm not sure it would get us any further than that, though. In 1959 Daniel Farson turned up the Aberconway version of the Macnaghten Memoranda. This, in turn, led to the identification of Montague John Druitt as a major suspect but not, as yet, proof of his being JtR.

    I'll certainly be interested in anything you turn up, but I think you're going to need a lot of stamina.

    Regards, Bridewell
    I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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    • lynn cates
      Commisioner
      • Aug 2009
      • 13841

      #3
      committed

      Hello TQ. Welcome to the boards.

      Your proposal sounds very interesting. Of course, by choosing December you seem already committed to including MJK but excluding McKenzie. That's fine, but there are many permutations.

      "Either the Ripper died, or he was arrested and imprisoned for some other offense, or he had some form of epiphany (e.g. got religion) or he was being controlled by some third party who ceased to have control over him."

      Might be one other option: he never existed in the first place.

      Cheers.
      LC

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      • Bridewell
        Commissioner
        • Apr 2011
        • 4039

        #4
        Might be one other option: he never existed in the first place.
        Lynn, you've welcomed this poor soul to the boards and left them with a cryptic remark they're not going to be able to make head or tail of!

        Questioner,

        To clarify - Lynn, I believe, thinks that only Nichols & Chapman were killed by the same hand. You'll need to do a bit of research of your own to understand his thinking on that, but that is, I think, the meaning he seeks to convey.

        Regards, Bridewell
        Last edited by Bridewell; 04-22-2012, 12:16 AM.
        I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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        • lynn cates
          Commisioner
          • Aug 2009
          • 13841

          #5
          all options

          Hello Colin, TQ. Don't mean to be cryptic, but I was offering ALL the options. Just wanting to be exhaustive, that's all.

          Cheers.
          LC

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          • Bridewell
            Commissioner
            • Apr 2011
            • 4039

            #6
            Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
            Hello Colin, TQ. Don't mean to be cryptic, but I was offering ALL the options. Just wanting to be exhaustive, that's all.

            Cheers.
            LC
            Hi Lynn,

            It wasn't meant as criticism. I just didn't think a newcomer would understand your meaning.

            Regards, Bridewell.
            I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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            • Steven Russell
              Sergeant
              • Mar 2010
              • 650

              #7
              There is yet another option: he stopped because his "work" was complete. Some of the more outlandish theories rely on this one. I think it highly unlikely myself but include it for the sake of completeness.

              Best wishes and welcome, Q.,
              Steve.

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              • lynn cates
                Commisioner
                • Aug 2009
                • 13841

                #8
                profs are us

                Hello Colin. No, didn't take it as such.

                I find that, occasionally, a one line observation can set one to thinking. Prof trick, you know.

                Cheers.
                LC

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                • lynn cates
                  Commisioner
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 13841

                  #9
                  for all X, . . .

                  Hello Steven. Splendid. ALL the possibilities need be exposed.

                  Cheers.
                  LC

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                  • Robert
                    Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 5163

                    #10
                    His physical health may have collapsed. He may have been sent to an asylum. He may simply have got sick of his work.

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                    • Bridewell
                      Commissioner
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 4039

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Robert View Post
                      He may simply have got sick of his work.
                      That's certainly what I think. He might even have got sick through his work perhaps.

                      Regards, Bridewell.
                      I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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                      • Steven Russell
                        Sergeant
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 650

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bridewell View Post
                        He might even have got sick through his work perhaps.

                        Regards, Bridewell.
                        If you ask me, he wasn't all that well to start with.

                        Best wishes,
                        Steve.

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                        • John Wheat
                          Assistant Commissioner
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 3421

                          #13
                          Purely to cover everything Jack may have continued killing with a different m.o. Although I think this is highly unlikely.

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                          • Steven Russell
                            Sergeant
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 650

                            #14
                            Or even continued with a similar MO elsewhere i.e. abroad.

                            Best wishes,
                            Steve.

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                            • Fisherman
                              Cadet
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 23676

                              #15
                              Robert:

                              " He may simply have got sick of his work."

                              True enough, although seldom thrown forward as a possibility. But in fact, such a thing would make a very neat explanation as to why he was never found out or caught.

                              The best,
                              Fisherman

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