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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
    Hi Errata.
    I think the way it is worded, Kelly had her throat cut while she was against the partition, therefore on the right side of the bed. Her body had been pulled towards the centre of the bed presumably by the killer who was standing on the left side, with his back to the windows.

    If she had her throat cut while she lay on her back, which seems most likely, the killer may have been sat on top of her and, if right-handed, slashed her throat from right to left.
    Or, perhaps he was left handed, or ambidextrous?

    Regards, Jon S.
    Hi Wicker
    Thanks for that. I think her position on the bed suggests that she had passed out with Blotchy on the bed with her. This could also help explain, if he was her killer, the longish time interval between there meeting and her murder(if one beleives her time of death was around 4:00).

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  • Heinrich
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
    ...

    He [Blotchy] was the last suspect seen to enter Mary Kelly's room on the night of her murder as described by a reliable witness, and if you find Hutch's A-man story as hard to beleive as i do then Blotchy is the last person to be with Mary when she was alive. This would make him suspect number one to any detective. ...
    Blotchy was the last "reliable" suspect seen with Mary in her room the night of her murder. ...
    What persuades you into believing that Mary Cox was a "reliable" witness? She had a criminal record for two assaults, including one of a police constable in 1887 for which she received a prison term.
    She claimed to have been in and out of her lodging the entire night long although she was a widow with a child to mind.
    "Blotchy" with his "carroty moustache" (LOL) was not seen by anyone else before or since the murder. Clearly, he is entirely made-up.

    No, the last person who admits to have been seen with Mary Kelly was Joseph Barnett; he's our man.

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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by Errata View Post
    ...If I recall correctly the coroner was of the opinion that she had been moved from the left side of the bed to the right. This might suggest that the killer was standing by the bedside table looking down at her when he cut her throat, then shoved her over to the other side of the bed so he could sit on the bed and complete the mutilations.

    It's an idea.
    Hi Errata.
    I think the way it is worded, Kelly had her throat cut while she was against the partition, therefore on the right side of the bed. Her body had been pulled towards the centre of the bed presumably by the killer who was standing on the left side, with his back to the windows.

    If she had her throat cut while she lay on her back, which seems most likely, the killer may have been sat on top of her and, if right-handed, slashed her throat from right to left.
    Or, perhaps he was left handed, or ambidextrous?

    Regards, Jon S.

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  • Sally
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Miss Marple. Indeed. Makes you wonder why she gave up on posh West End life.

    Cheers.
    LC
    Hey! Maybe Randolph Churchill was one of her clients there! I can't believe I never thought of that before. Doh.

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  • lynn cates
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    Luxury, ugh!

    Hello Miss Marple. Indeed. Makes you wonder why she gave up on posh West End life.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Errata
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    Originally posted by Bridewell View Post
    "My question would still be, why cut the right side of her throat (her right side)?
    I am very strongly right-handed myself, and cannot imagine cutting someone's throat "backhand," as it were. Jack had always cut his victims' throats on their left side."


    Just possibly because, whilst his usual practise was to cut the left side of the throat from the right side of the body, he was unable to get there without waking her on this occasion and had to improvise? I think the fact that the bed was against the wall on that side might be a factor.

    (I'm not saying that's how it was - just that it is a possible explanation).

    Yours aye, Bridewell.
    If a right handed man cuts the throat of a victim from behind, he starts the cut on her left side. If he cuts the throat of a supine victim while on her right side, he starts on her left. If he cuts the throat of a supine victim from her left side, he starts the cut on her right. If he cuts the throat of the victim from the front, he starts on her right side.

    Which would suggest that Kelly's killer was either in front of her, or on her left side. If I recall correctly the coroner was of the opinion that she had been moved from the left side of the bed to the right. This might suggest that the killer was standing by the bedside table looking down at her when he cut her throat, then shoved her over to the other side of the bed so he could sit on the bed and complete the mutilations.

    It's an idea.

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  • miss marple
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    The price for an East End stand up quickie was four pence, the cheapest and lowest in the hierarchy of prostitutes, which was the cost of a room in a lodging house. If Mary used her room she might get a shilling or more if she offered extra services.
    Its a matter of economics. Mary had been a professional prostitute, not a sad old bag needing money for drink or a room, so if it is true she had worked in an upmarket brothel and she was still young and attractive, I don't suppose she would get out of bed for four pence.
    In a west end brothel you could get five shillings up to a pound.
    She did not go back on the game till she split with Joe. She needed that room.

    Miss Marple
    Last edited by miss marple; 03-08-2012, 07:45 PM.

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  • Lord-z
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    Originally posted by kensei View Post
    Fleetwood Mac wondered why Mary didn't just take him into an alley for a quick one. Well, she had her own place, which none of the other victims did. It was out of the weather and afforded her comfort, an actual bed, and privacy. Doing business in alleyways, though it may have been the norm- let's face it, it sucked. It was dirty and uncomfortable. If any other option was available, it would have been preferable.

    See, I don't think a prostitute at that time would have wanted comfortable or necessarily private. I think they would want a place where they wouldn't be arrested, to give the man a quick intercrural, if they could get away with it, get their money and leave, repeat as needed.

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  • lynn cates
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    try

    Hello Stephen. Actually, they looked high and low for the place of sale--even down to chatting up pot boys. It was a no go.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Stephen Thomas
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    Blotchy is a most mysterious character.

    Where did he buy the beer from and how did he hook up with Kelly?

    The police and the press apparently didn't care to investigate this.

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  • lynn cates
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    suffering from inconsonants

    Hello Robert. I think I shall flee inconsonantly at that one.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    null

    Hello David. The null place. (heh-heh)

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Robert
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    Gentlemen, it's of no significance - McCarthy wasn't short of vowels, not once Kelly had given him an IOU for the rent. And then, Ol' Macdonald had an inquest, EI EI O, and McCarthy was deluged with vowels.

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  • DVV
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    You moved the vowel to a different place.
    LC
    Where ?
    This I challenge you to show.

    Ed Reid

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  • lynn cates
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    Non consonant reasoning.

    Hello Robert. Rubbish. You moved the vowel to a different place. Simple vowel movement, that's all.

    Cheers.
    LC

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