Who are the mostly likely suspects?

[Wickerman]

My logic is BS?! Thanks Mike! I thought the 67 inches mention and example was unique myself.
Flemming's height doesn't work for me, but I don't have him down as a suspect either.

How is it you end up in a crossfire without even saying a word...

[Debra A]

Deb is not the only one who has suggested an error for Fleming's height. This has been said often in the past. The truth is, there were people 6'7" and taller back then and not just a few. His height only doesn't work if you want him to be a suspect. That's really rubbish, isn't it, to discard something because you don't want it to be so and then making up some BS logic to go along with it?

Sorry. Prove he wasn't 6'7" and maybe you have something.

Mike

My logic is BS?! Thanks Mike! I thought the 67 inches mention and example was unique myself.
Flemming's height doesn't work for me, but I don't have him down as a suspect either.

[lynn cates]

errors

Hello Malcolm. Why MUST he be 6 ' 7"? It is not at all uncommon to find small errors in these charts.

Now, if that's the case, is he a good suspect--at least for Kelly?

Cheers.
LC

[Bridewell]

Hmmm!

Well I don't think a top 50 would be very narrowed down and would contain a lot of very improbable suspects. My personal list currently consists of a top three-
3. William Bury
2. James Kelly
1. Who I really think it was- the infamous "unknown local who has never been named."

I agree with earlier posts that it would be difficult to name as many as 50 credible suspects.

My Top Three:

3. Tumblety
2. Chapman / Klosowski
1. Local man (Definitely) - Will Be Named In Due Course!

I wouldn't rule Bury out, although, if Alice Clay Pipe was proven to be a Ripper victim, he'd be alibi'd by his own execution!

Best Wishes, Bridewell.

[Ben]

But Fleming's weight was given at 11 stone, Mike, which is the equivalent of 154 pounds. According to the BMI index, that places Fleming very much in the "underweight" category. Have a look here, and note that 6'7" is off the scale!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5297790.stm

[The Good Michael]

The BMI charts for a man 6'7" weighing 164 pounds puts him at 18.5 or in the normal range. Regardless if Fleming was ill and lost weight, he was in the normal range. Case closed.

Mike

[Ben]

Hi Richard,

I agree entirely.

Also, if you consider Debs' suggestion that the registrar meant to write 67 inches, that would be the equivalent of 5'7".

Cheers,
Ben

[richardnunweek]

Hello Ben.
11 Stone 10pounds at one stage , if I recall, which if his height was a misprint ie, 5'7'', would have been a little fat would you not think for 1888?
Still that could work better for Fleming being a suspect, a short stout man would be apt, and that figures throughout this case.
Regards Richard.

[Ben]

Well, I don't think Debs' logic was "BS" at all. I felt her suggestion made considerable sense. In addition, I never formed the impression that Debs was intent on promoting Fleming as a suspect. The really really rubbish thing to do would be to accept the entry uncritically, and in spite the absurdity of the idea that a man of such height could also be both 11 stone in weight AND of "good" bodily health.

The entry is probably in error, and Debs' suggested explanation is as good as any.

But let's have a huge great off-topic repetitive debate about Fleming...again.

[The Good Michael]

Deb is not the only one who has suggested an error for Fleming's height. This has been said often in the past. The truth is, there were people 6'7" and taller back then and not just a few. His height only doesn't work if you want him to be a suspect. That's really rubbish, isn't it, to discard something because you don't want it to be so and then making up some BS logic to go along with it?

Sorry. Prove he wasn't 6'7" and maybe you have something.

Mike

[Scorpio]

Fleming 6'7 ?........Perhaps he still had his stove pipe on when they measured him ?.

[Malcolm X]

if i was to pick others, rather than my obvious, because picking him is far too easy...

i would go for
1......GH, the real one that we all know, because i'm now quite suspicious of him
2......W. BURY
3......LE GRAND
4......LA DE DA, but tamed down

[GregBaron]

Tinker Sailor Soldier Spy...

Hi all,

I think Fleming's height is an error also. A 6'7" bean pole would join the carnival...

I like the thinking of richardnunweek except for the daytime massacre of MJK. I struggle with that. It's even more risky, and why burn the clothing and how could no one see anyone coming or going? Seems too much for me but I like the thinking outside the box...

I also like it that no one has mentioned Koz, Druitt, Tumblety, Chapman or the other usual suspects.

I nominate Lawende's sailor, he's our man, he's just not Feigenbaum....


Greg

[Ben]

Hi Mal,

It is very unlikely that Fleming was as tall as all that. An error, of the type that Debra suggested on another thread, is the most likely explanation behind the penciled entry.

Regards,
Ben

[Malcolm X]

Hello Malcolm. Unless, of course, you accept Debs' conjecture regarding height.

And if correct, do you think Fleming goes on the top 50 list? I rather like him for MJK.

Cheers.
LC

nope, i wont even consider him, he was deffo 6ft 7'' or 6ft 6'', this is good enough for me, he's a total non starter.