Would a Doctor or a Policeman participate in major crimes such as these?

[jmenges]

take some advice to stay round the cauldron and mind the broomstick

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Keep you sexist pig f****ing remarks off of this board or I’ll toss your ass.

JM

[Trevor Marriott]

Again, I must point out how I do not go with old theories when they fail. I mentioned this before.
I challenge much with regards to the accepted in Bucks Row, and in Berner Street. Therefore your claim is unjustified, but of course it's simply a poor attempt to divert attention.

Armchair detective? As opposed to what?

You are no longer a detective, like me you are retired, so we are the same.
Pot, kettle, black comes to mind.
Of course armchair detective is such a non insult anyway in the age of online records.

Sadly, repeating theories that DO stand up to serious and rigiouros Scrutiny, by the vast majority of people both lay and expert, fail scrutiny does not mean that they do.

Similarly repeating evidence is UNSAFE, over and over, is simply you in your own personal echo chamber Trevor. Just because YOU deem it unsafe DOES NOT mean it is.

I see, you still avoid the issue that 12 towels is not excessive. But you should know, after the photo tear incident, that I will not let go.

Steve

A detective never loses that investigative and suspicious mind

You and the wicked witch of the north can sling as much mud as you like I have nothing to fear. I am more than happy with the results of my cold case review of this case and I grow tired of having to keep preaching to the unconverted. I have said all that I can say I have posted images to show the old accepted theory is flawed so I will withdraw from further participation in this topic

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[Elamarna]

and you totally ignore my previous post, no one is inventing anything, you are another so immersed in the old accepted theory that you have become blinkered to anything that goes against that. How sad is that, but it is to be expected from you and the handful of other armchair detectives who hold court day after day here

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Again, I must point out how I do not go with old theories when they fail. I mentioned this before.
I challenge much with regards to the accepted in Bucks Row, and in Berner Street. Therefore your claim is unjustified, but of course it's simply a poor attempt to divert attention.

Armchair detective? As opposed to what?

You are no longer a detective, like me you are retired, so we are the same.
Pot, kettle, black comes to mind.
Of course armchair detective is such a non insult anyway in the age of online records.

Sadly, repeating theories that DO stand up to serious and rigiouros Scrutiny, by the vast majority of people both lay and expert, fail scrutiny does not mean that they do.

Similarly repeating evidence is UNSAFE, over and over, is simply you in your own personal echo chamber Trevor. Just because YOU deem it unsafe DOES NOT mean it is.

I see, you still avoid the issue that 12 towels is not excessive. But you should know, after the photo tear incident, that I will not let go.

Steve

[Trevor Marriott]

Your attempt to divert from my posts FAILS to stand up to serious Scrutiny.

It is YOU who as posted here that 12 towels was excessive, not an unnamed expert.
It is you who now attempts to divert from.the fact, that anyone who as lived with a woman, knows your suggestion that 12 is excessive is simple invention .

With regards to your "speculation"on the apron, there is a difference between speculation and invention. You cross that line sadly.

Steve

and you totally ignore my previous post, no one is inventing anything, you are another so immersed in the old accepted theory that you have become blinkered to anything that goes against that. How sad is that, but it is to be expected from you and the handful of other armchair detectives who hold court day after day here

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[Trevor Marriott]

My goodness, I feel like Taylor Swift about to drop her 34th album. Unfortunately, I am biz-zay this week and well... there's the issue that I've come to the conclusion that Trevor is just pathologically stupid. There comes a point where arguing with people who are literally too dense to take onboard new information and incorporate it into their world view becomes an exercise in futility, if you're actually trying to argue rationally with him, Which of course, no one is at this point. Have you ever tried to argue with a flat-earther? I have, just to see how stupid people argue things, and it's basically the exact same "evolution" of argument as how Trevor argues his points.

He's proven wrong, repeatedly, and often and any time that happens, he just ignores the post or the points in it, and says "You're not credible, you need to shut up". He's incapable of admitting he's wrong -- even when he's on an audio recording, claiming A, and then turns around and says no one ever claimed A. You can't have a serious discussion with a person like that. And no one really is anymore of course. It's all about pinning the tail on the jackass. Which is a fun party game, and one I'm willing to play, it's a good way to while away an otherwise boring five minutes. I don't mind wasting time, when I have time to waste, but I'm a little pressed for the next couple of days.

For long term fun, I require my targets to have an IQ somewhere above the level of a slug, if only so that they can differentiate between people laughing at them, and applauding them. He hears the jeers and thinks they're cheers. Delusion like that is mostly fun to observe from the sidelines, with popcorn. And I've yet to see any amount of actually intelligent response that would make this a worthwhile endeavor to pursue over doing the laundry which is a more intellectually stimulating activity than any debate from him.

Anyone who actually argues a point and then when proven wrong says, "I don't care to find out the answer..." and then keeps arguing it? Well, I mean honestly. How absolutely ridiculous is that person.

he is no more ridiculous than you and your constant defamatory posts. take some advice to stay round the cauldron and mind the broomstick

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[Ally]

Cmon Ally dont keep us in suspense

My goodness, I feel like Taylor Swift about to drop her 34th album. Unfortunately, I am biz-zay this week and well... there's the issue that I've come to the conclusion that Trevor is just pathologically stupid. There comes a point where arguing with people who are literally too dense to take onboard new information and incorporate it into their world view becomes an exercise in futility, if you're actually trying to argue rationally with him, Which of course, no one is at this point. Have you ever tried to argue with a flat-earther? I have, just to see how stupid people argue things, and it's basically the exact same "evolution" of argument as how Trevor argues his points.

He's proven wrong, repeatedly, and often and any time that happens, he just ignores the post or the points in it, and says "You're not credible, you need to shut up". He's incapable of admitting he's wrong -- even when he's on an audio recording, claiming A, and then turns around and says no one ever claimed A. You can't have a serious discussion with a person like that. And no one really is anymore of course. It's all about pinning the tail on the jackass. Which is a fun party game, and one I'm willing to play, it's a good way to while away an otherwise boring five minutes. I don't mind wasting time, when I have time to waste, but I'm a little pressed for the next couple of days.

For long term fun, I require my targets to have an IQ somewhere above the level of a slug, if only so that they can differentiate between people laughing at them, and applauding them. He hears the jeers and thinks they're cheers. Delusion like that is mostly fun to observe from the sidelines, with popcorn. And I've yet to see any amount of actually intelligent response that would make this a worthwhile endeavor to pursue over doing the laundry which is a more intellectually stimulating activity than any debate from him.

Anyone who actually argues a point and then when proven wrong says, "I don't care to find out the answer..." and then keeps arguing it? Well, I mean honestly. How absolutely ridiculous is that person.

[Elamarna]

But I am not the one who made the suggestion that if she was menstruating she could have used the 12 pieces of rag for that purpose instead of her apron.

The issue is that was she simply in possession of two old pieces of an apron at some time before her arrest, one of which she was using as a sanitary device. The other piece of an apron was found in her possessions at the mortuary. The two pieces were never matched, and Browns description does not allow for a match

The official statement of Dr Brown I believe adds real corroboration to the fact that she wasn’t wearing an apron. “My attention was called to the apron it was the corner of the apron with the string attached.” This shows that the apron piece from the mortuary was of the type which originally had two strings attached.

However, he describes it as a corner piece with a string attached, so that would mean that it was either the left or right-hand corner nearest to the waistband. So that would have meant that if she had been wearing the apron at the time of her death and the killer had cut or torn the apron piece found in Goulston Street then the rest of the apron would be left behind still attached to her body and still fixed with the two strings still attached, and would have been described as an old white apron with a piece missing, not as was described as old white apron piece, and would have been of significant size for the doctors and police to document it as just that. But because the piece found in Goulston Street matched the piece from the mortuary what was accounted for with the two pieces was in effect one half of an apron. see attached which has been posted before



The red line shows how the seams and the borders were matched

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Your attempt to divert from my posts FAILS to stand up to serious Scrutiny.

It is YOU who as posted here that 12 towels was excessive, not an unnamed expert.
It is you who now attempts to divert from.the fact, that anyone who as lived with a woman, knows your suggestion that 12 is excessive is simple invention .

With regards to your "speculation"on the apron, there is a difference between speculation and invention. You cross that line sadly.

Steve

[DJA]

Again you rush to post without engaging your brain first

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What did you expect?

[FISHY1118]

Again you rush to post without engaging your brain first

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Trevor, your the last person to be talking about brains, its clear to all you lack them. This idiotic theory of yours where you continue to make up different senarios to suit, is really embarassing. Your clearly so far down your own rabbit hole lately that the desperation to defend such a Ludicrous theory is taking a toll on you .

But i look forward to more of Trevors fictional stories of the ''what Eddowes might have or mght not have done'' on the night of her murder.

[Herlock Sholmes]

But I am not the one who made the suggestion that if she was menstruating she could have used the 12 pieces of rag for that purpose instead of her apron.

The issue is that was she simply in possession of two old pieces of an apron at some time before her arrest, one of which she was using as a sanitary device. The other piece of an apron was found in her possessions at the mortuary. The two pieces were never matched, and Browns description does not allow for a match

The official statement of Dr Brown I believe adds real corroboration to the fact that she wasn’t wearing an apron. “My attention was called to the apron it was the corner of the apron with the string attached.” This shows that the apron piece from the mortuary was of the type which originally had two strings attached.

However, he describes it as a corner piece with a string attached, so that would mean that it was either the left or right-hand corner nearest to the waistband. So that would have meant that if she had been wearing the apron at the time of her death and the killer had cut or torn the apron piece found in Goulston Street then the rest of the apron would be left behind still attached to her body and still fixed with the two strings still attached, and would have been described as an old white apron with a piece missing, not as was described as old white apron piece, and would have been of significant size for the doctors and police to document it as just that. But because the piece found in Goulston Street matched the piece from the mortuary what was accounted for with the two pieces was in effect one half of an apron. see attached which has been posted before



The red line shows how the seams and the borders were matched

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Wickerman, myself and others put this nonsense to bed ages ago Trevor and you know it. Now you are just regurgitating the same fallacies. Let’s remind ourselves of what Dr. Brown said at the Inquest:

“I have seen a portion of an apron produced by Dr. Phillips and stated to have been found in Goulston Street. It is impossible to say it is human blood. I fitted the piece of apron which had a new piece of material on it which had been evidently sewn on to the piece I have. The seams of the borders of the two actually corresponding…”




You conveniently, as usual, neglect any mention of the patch which Brown clearly used when matching up the two pieces. The left hand side of the apron in your drawing is a hem and not a seam (which has also been explained to you). Brown mentions matching up via a seam. We don’t know the exact location of this but we know that the killer cut through it.

Wickerman posted a suggestion which I add here. This conforms to the known evidence. There’s also another suggestion involving a downward cut through the waistband, but what you’ve done (again) is to falsely present your diagram as the only possible explanation when of course it’s not because we have no description of exactly how the apron was cut. You can’t prove something that we know is false by a self-serving diagram Trevor. The two pieces made up a whole apron. If it hadn’t have done this fact would have been mentioned…..and it wasn’t.


This is Wickerman’s suggestion.

[Trevor Marriott]

Its Silly one, as no doubt will be pointed out to you shortly.

Again you rush to post without engaging your brain first

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[FISHY1118]

I have a brilliant answer see below

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Its Silly one, as no doubt will be pointed out to you shortly.

[Trevor Marriott]

Brilliant Question

I have a brilliant answer see below

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[Trevor Marriott]

Would she have been on the game whilst she was on the blob ?

Needs must when the devil calls, and the description of the apron piece shows that she may have come to the end of her cycle or as a gynaecologist opines someone living her lifestyle may not have a normal period.

Victorian street women in order to avoid becoming pregnant would also adopt a non-penetrative method called femoral sex

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[FISHY1118]

Would she have been on the game whilst she was on the blob ?

Brilliant Question