The probabilities of the MM '3'..A possible scenario?

[DVV]

Right you are, but Anderson's ineptitudes may well be the result of his inaptitude.

[Monty]

That may be, however to make such a claim against the force as a whole is ignorant to the methods and resources of the time.

Monty

[DVV]

That may be, however to make such a claim against the force as a whole is ignorant to the methods and resources of the time.

Monty

Problem is that their methods and resources led them to favour different suspects and conflicting theories.
Anderson has been mocked by some his colleagues, before Phil and I were born.

[Monty]

So that's a valid reason to claim conspiracy or cover up?

Monty

[Stephen Thomas]

I've said this before and I'll say it again but as usual, I suppose, no-one will take the blindest bit of notice. But here goes.........

If McNaghten said in 1894 that JTR had 5 victims and 5 victims only this can only mean in ultimate logical and philosophical terms that JTR was dead or banged up. But never mind. Carry on guys.

[DVV]

Actually, Phil said "cover-up of shame", and my opinion is that, yes, Anderson's theory is a desperate attempt to explain that the ripper hunt was not exactly a failure - he knew, at least, who the ripper was.

That is all.

[DVV]

I've said this before and I'll say it again but as usual, I suppose, no-one will take the blindest bit of notice. But here goes.........

If McNaghten said in 1894 that JTR had 5 victims and 5 victims only this can only mean in ultimate logical and philosophical terms that JTR was dead or banged up. But never mind. Carry on guys.

Hi Stephen

dunno whether he was dead or not, but in 1895 Grainger became, although briefly, a ripper suspect.

[Monty]

Actually, Phil said "cover-up of shame", and my opinion is that, yes, Anderson's theory is a desperate attempt to explain that the ripper hunt was not exactly a failure - he knew, at least, who the ripper was.

That is all.

So you misquoted Phil?

Anderson holds a air of boastfulness true.

Monty

[DVV]

So you misquoted Phil?

Monty

That would be terrible.

[Monty]

Consistantly.

Monty

[Phil Carter]

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More likely a cover-up of shame. Shame of total ineptitude.

Phil

Hi Phil

I like this, and tend to agree. It would apply to Anderson's theory as well.

Amitiés
David

Ignorance is bliss, it also feeds the Conspiracy theorists.

Monty
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Silence is sublime. It feeds the wall sitters

Phil

[Phil Carter]

That may be, however to make such a claim against the force as a whole is ignorant to the methods and resources of the time.

Monty

Hello Neil,

I didn't make "such a claim against the force as a whole.." please read my first post again, I pointed to to top making the errors, and the beat bobbies being made the scapegoats in the eyes of the local population.

At least I do not defend the police force at every opportunity assuming that they never did any wrong, that any ranking policeman never did anything wrong and out of some profound sense of loyalty see no wrong in the Met or the City Police and always put down any comment that does attack the methodology used by those who were supposed to have control over the situation. But than again, I'm not an ex-cop either.

best wishes

Phil

[Monty]

Ignorance is bliss, it also feeds the Conspiracy theorists.

Monty

Silence is sublime. It feeds the wall sitters

Phil[/QUOTE]

So you'd rather make misleading statements of belief?

Sometimes, for the sake of balance, its better to keep ones gob shut until you understand what exactly went on.

I know perfectly well what you said Phil. However it is pretty clear that you have misunderstood the Police stratergy and procedure.

You have also confused the personal with the official.

Monty

[Phil Carter]

Hello Neil,

I used the word cover-up as in covering up the shame of never admitting the fialure of not getting the killers.

You delight and dream of labelling people as conspiracy theorists, yet I see pressure little possible answer from you in all this. All you do is present facts and say nothing, daring never to waver one way nor tother. Interpreting something is perhaps a comprehnsion that is not allowed in your perception of Ripperology? Well some of us do. Whether the fence sitters like it or not.

best wishes

Phil

[Phil Carter]

Hi Phil

I like this, and tend to agree. It would apply to Anderson's theory as well.

Amitiés
David

Hello David,

Thank you. Possible does apply to Anderson. What it does do, if one wishes to think that way, is put the MM into context.

best wishes

Phil