Asylum Records and photograph of Jacob Isenschmid(t)

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  • DVV
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    Lynn,

    names often suffer when they cross borders.

    My grandad was called Hien in Vietnam but became...André in France.

    My Ethiopian ID some years ago said Boban instead of Vô Vân.

    My last wife became Mouna in France, but her real name was Munira.

    Therefore, as far as I'm concerned, I would still call him Isenchmid - as in the police reports.

    Amitiés,
    David

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  • lynn cates
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    d it is

    Hello Chris. Then "d" it must be.

    Thanks!

    The best.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    thanks

    Hello DVV. I'm glad you liked it.

    Thanks again.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • DVV
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello DVV. Thanks, you are much too kind!

    The research was great fun and I felt so sorry for the poor chap. There was a hint that it all began with sun stroke in about 1882.

    The best.
    LC
    Oh no, Lynn,

    this is a great achievement, nothing to compare with most of the current discussions.

    And the sun is the eye of Ahura Mazda, mind you.

    Congrats again,
    David

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  • Chris Scott
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    Hi Lynn
    Yes - on the marriage cert. he spells his name Isenschmid.
    Chris

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  • DVV
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    Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
    Hello David,

    There is something about that photo that is very Albert Fish-like.

    Very off-putting.

    best wishes

    Phil
    Aaaargh, Phil my dear,

    wonder if they found needles in Isenchmid private parts...!

    Anyway, quite a character...I like September suspects...Isenchmid could be your ripper number one, couldn't he ?
    Wish we could find a pic of Piggott, though.

    Amitiés,
    David

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  • lynn cates
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    d or t

    Hello Chris. Good work! Is that a "d" ending his name?

    The best.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    Fish

    Hello Phil. Funny you should mention Albert Fish. I use him as an example in my Ethics classes.

    Like Fish, Isenschmid was, by his wife's account, an avid Bible reader. If Isenschmid did commit an act of violence, it may have been in a delusional state. When in his right senses, he looks a kindly man.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Chris Scott
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    One thing I can add is a copy of the 1867 marriage certificate.
    This reads as follows:

    Marriage solemnized at St Barnabas's Church in the Parish of St Luke in the County of Middlesex

    When Married: 26 December 1867

    Groom:
    Name: Jacob Isenschmid
    Age: Full
    Condition: Bachelor
    Rank or Profession: Butcher
    Residence at time of marriage: 41 Bath Street
    Father's Name: Bending Isenschmid
    Rank or Profession of Father: Farmer

    Bride:
    Name: Mary Ann Joyce
    Age: Full
    Condition: Spinster
    Residence at time of marriage: 98 Old Street
    Father's Name: Richard Joyce
    Rank or Profession of Father: Farmer

    Witnesses:
    Frederick Augustus Lewington
    Ann Parish


    This includes Isenschmid's signature and details about his father and, of course, details about his wife.
    Attached Files

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  • lynn cates
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    thanks

    Hello DVV. Thanks, you are much too kind!

    The research was great fun and I felt so sorry for the poor chap. There was a hint that it all began with sun stroke in about 1882.

    The best.
    LC

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  • Phil Carter
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    Hello David,

    There is something about that photo that is very Albert Fish-like.

    Very off-putting.

    best wishes

    Phil

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  • DVV
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    Fantastic work, Lynn and Chris.

    These records offer a gripping insight into Isenchmid personality and madness.

    Won-der-ful.

    Sugden's excellent chapter on Isenschmid is outdated !

    Many thanks,
    David

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  • Phil Carter
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    Hello Lynn, Chris,

    Well done indeed for hunting down these papers Lynn, superb work! And well done to Chris for transcribing them too, sounds like it was difficult!

    best wishes

    Phil

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  • Chris Scott
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    Hi Lynn
    You are more than welcome:-)
    There are many points of interest here but one that struck me was that for his final period in Colney Hatch, Isenschmidt was transferred from the place where Roslyn D'Onston died - the workhouse at St John's Road, Islington

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  • lynn cates
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    thanks

    Hello Chris. All thanks to you for all the hard work here. As you know, the handwriting of the examining officer was difficult.

    The best.
    LC

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