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  • #16
    True or False

    Originally posted by JTRSickert View Post
    I just want to point out that I find Walter Sickert to be a fascinating character in this whole Ripper drama. The reason is because, out of all the suspects, he seems to be the one that keeps on "evolving," ;if you get my meaning. To further demonstrate, he goes from:

    1. Being an individual interested in the case: Sickert said he stayed in a lodging house where the landlady said JTR occupied the room, which led him to paint the so-called "Jack the Ripper's Bedroom" painting; he would dress up liek JTR on certain days; his artwork may have been inspired by some of the victim charaterizations in the media; and, he may (and this is a big
    "may") have written a few of the hoax Ripper letters.

    2. Informant-Joseph Gorman says that Walter Sickert told him the tale of knowing the true story of the murders;says the 3rd accomplice was Robert Anderson.

    3. Accomplice-Stephen Knight said it was, in fact, Sickert who was the third accomplice.

    4. JTR himself-See Jean Overton Fuller and Patricia Cornwell

    So, even though I don't believe Sickert was JTR, there can be no denying he has had a long history to this case and his status keeps on changing. Maybe next, he'll evolove to trying to be a hero, an amateur detective trying to catch the Ripper. Who knows?

    I have 2 True or Falses for you.
    1) Gorman came out after the fact and said he had made the whole Sickert story up.
    2) Cornwell's DNA tests on the Ripper letter stamps came up with a result whereby Sickert could not be ruled out, i.e. he might have sent the letters.

    (PS) I don't know the answers.
    Last edited by ghoulstonstreet; 12-03-2009, 11:34 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by JTRSickert View Post
      I just want to point out that I find Walter Sickert to be a fascinating character in this whole Ripper drama. The reason is because, out of all the suspects, he seems to be the one that keeps on "evolving," ;if you get my meaning. To further demonstrate, he goes from:

      1. Being an individual interested in the case: Sickert said he stayed in a lodging house where the landlady said JTR occupied the room, which led him to paint the so-called "Jack the Ripper's Bedroom" painting; he would dress up liek JTR on certain days; his artwork may have been inspired by some of the victim charaterizations in the media; and, he may (and this is a big
      "may") have written a few of the hoax Ripper letters.

      2. Informant-Joseph Gorman says that Walter Sickert told him the tale of knowing the true story of the murders;says the 3rd accomplice was Robert Anderson.

      3. Accomplice-Stephen Knight said it was, in fact, Sickert who was the third accomplice.

      4. JTR himself-See Jean Overton Fuller and Patricia Cornwell

      So, even though I don't believe Sickert was JTR, there can be no denying he has had a long history to this case and his status keeps on changing. Maybe next, he'll evolove to trying to be a hero, an amateur detective trying to catch the Ripper. Who knows?

      1, May have, would have, could have, but no evidence. Whilst it is true that Sickert stayed at Mornington Crescent, there is no source for him dressing up as the Ripper! Fuller only stated that he wore a red neckerchief when painting! Sickert's paintings were based on the murder of Emily Dimmock and a common occurance throughout his work was the facial features that were unrecognisable. He painted several musical hall scenes in his early career showing men and women with similar features.

      2, Gorman later recounted this story and cannot be trusted as an eyewitness. His "facts" were disproven years ago.

      3, Knight's theory was based on Gorman's work, and Gorman later revealed to Melvin Fairclough that he was dishonest to Knight.

      4, See the actual biographies on Sickert such as Browse, and Sturgis, who both provide ample primary sources to counter any of the claims made by Fuller and Cornwell. As for Cornwell's mtDNA, she admitted herself that she could not rule out Ellen Sickert, and Whistler as the source of the DNA. Hardly conclusive!
      Last edited by Mike Covell; 12-04-2009, 02:25 PM.
      Regards Mike

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