mann

[steje73]

His age does seem to be against his candidacy.
He died in march 1896 in Whitechapel age 60.
Also being an inmate of the workhouse for so many years, does bring up problems of access to victims
Another promising candidate gone west?
Miss Marple

I wouldn't worry about his age. I mean, look at Jimmy Savile still running marathons in his 60s wasn't he?


And no, I'm not being serious here.

[Monty]

Way to attack your readership Trevor.


Monty

[Trevor Marriott]

i would say its because they dont have the mental capacity to distinguish fact from fantasy !!!!

[Stewart P Evans]

Why?

Really, why do people take these expeditions into the land of the fantastic so seriously?

[miss marple]

His age does seem to be against his candidacy.
He died in march 1896 in Whitechapel age 60.
Also being an inmate of the workhouse for so many years, does bring up problems of access to victims
Another promising candidate gone west?
Miss Marple

[Stewart P Evans]

Ripper Bandwagon

It's another ride on the Ripper Bandwagon - pay your fares and jump aboard. And don't expect anything so vulgar as facts to get in the way.

[lynn cates]

clincher

Hello. According to the article, the clincher is that he undressed Polly. Given her line of work, I'd say hundreds of men killed her.

Cheers.
LC

[The Grave Maurice]

Well, I guess that put me in my place. I'm now suitably chastised. I was only suggesting that Trow has put forward a new, and rather interesting, suspect. You, on the other hand, might want to ask your GP about the possible benefits of Valium.

I think you rather over state the case, Colin.

No, I do not!

Bodies would, no doubt, show up at various times of the day and night. Not all of them would have been victims of murder, but all would require attention.

Therein lay his 'responsibilities', not his 'passage'.

I suspect that Mann, as the mortuary attendant, would have had more freedom of movement than most inmates.

In light of the fact that most inmates had no "freedom of movement", whatsoever; I think I have already acknowledged as much.

[The Grave Maurice]

I think you rather over state the case, Colin. Sugden describes Mann as the "keeper" of the mortuary. Bodies would, no doubt, show up at various times of the day and night. Not all of them would have been victims of murder, but all would require attention. I suspect that Mann, as the mortuary attendant, would have had more freedom of movement than most inmates.

Were the inmates of workhouses really allowed to roam the streets at all hours?

Of course, … they were not!

Mann appears to have lived most of his life in the facility that was the Whitechapel Union Workhouse from ~1842 to 1872, and the Whitechapel Union Infirmary thereafter. He is listed as either a resident 'inmate' or 'pauper' in each of the census-years 1851, 1871 and 1881.

Having been a mortuary attendant in the autumn of 1888, he had obviously been granted certain responsibilities. Perhaps he had also been granted a certain degree of passage, with which he was able to occasionally 'come-and-go'. But he most certainly would have been held accountable for his 'comings-and-goings'; and it is absolutely unthinkable that he would have been granted any sort of passage between the hours of midnight and 6:00AM.

Robert Mann is a non-starter!

[Chris]

i have always thought that jack was in all probability,a local man,white male,youngish,25 to 40,and was most likely employed in a menial job where a knife was probably involved,fish porter,slaughterhouse worker etc... this man obviously knew the area,well,and was inconspicious enough to blend in easily with those around him.

I agree with you, Allan. Sadly, if we apply those criteria only we only narrow down the field to something of the order of tens of thousands of men

And those tens of thousands wouldn't include Robert Mann, who was apparently well into his 50s at the time of the murders.

[Sam Flynn]

i have always thought that jack was in all probability,a local man,white male,youngish,25 to 40,and was most likely employed in a menial job where a knife was probably involved,fish porter,slaughterhouse worker etc... this man obviously knew the area,well,and was inconspicious enough to blend in easily with those around him.

I agree with you, Allan. Sadly, if we apply those criteria only we only narrow down the field to something of the order of tens of thousands of men

[Trevor Marriott]

Even with these so called expert profilers its still very much hit and miss. In fact most people if they sat and thought about it long and hard could probably come up with a profile that could match.

I am afraid I am like Stewart Evans we are from the old school never had these in our day, and still we managed to detect the crimes using conventional policing methods !!!!!!!.

maybe Mr Mann did remove the organs from Chapman but not at the scene or after killing her but at the mortuary

[Chris]

Were the inmates of workhouses really allowed to roam the streets at all hours?